Here is September 19th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 20th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 21st's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 23rd's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 24th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Links and Stuff
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to the above list if you can, thank you.
Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)
Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Telegram Channels
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
Pro-Russian
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.
https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.
https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.
https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine
With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Last week's discussion post.
The Iranian working class are not the ones rioting, which is why this will fail like all the other color revolution attempts
This may come as a shock to our resident west-heads but the Iranian gov enjoys a large amount of buy-in with its working class despite the unpopularity of certain laws
The Iranian working class arent stupid they dont want to overthrow their government and end up like their neighbors, so ironically you kinda kneecaped and muted your own point there
There really is no point in this discussion. I have yet to see a single protest in a western-opposed country that wasn’t labelled a Color Revolution by misguided MLs so that label already lost its meaning long ago. I am also eagerly waiting to just once hear the critical part of critical support and that hasn’t happened either.
I have a lot of family in Iran and am well aware of the internal situation. If the Iranian working class do not want to overthrow their government then that is fine and at no point did I say otherwise.
Cuba, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Iran, Kazakhstan, Libya, Syria, Belarus all open and proven examples of protest "movements" being completely funded and backed by western private/governmental fronts, the MLs use the label color revolution because it accurately describes the actual existing reality of a global hegemony enforced by a single superpower and its allies, this shit ain't a conspiracy bruh it's all out in the open ML's literally have the receipts in many cases
Also you don't just get to demand everyone else have the perfect take that completely satisfies every removedling doubt you have, if you disagree with the ML model then you're obligated to present an alternative analysis of geopolitics that explains the current state of things
Of course when anti-MLs try to do that they inevitably end up having to deal with those ML receipts one way or another, and it usually ends up with them making an incoherent garbled mess of an argument that gets basic facts wrong; like the fact the Iranian working class is one of the government's strongest power blocks....shit that even a US think tank would admit to
You claim to have family there and know the internal situation but basic stuff like that just slipped your mind? Kinda susssy
I am well aware that the US is constantly interfering in everything that happens in those countries. That is not news.
But it is possible for there to be legitimate anti-government protests in those countries. And no matter what, the US will try to steer/ agitate and otherwise use that movement for their benefit. Because that’s what they always do. But that doesn’t invalidate the protests itself. Because if it did, then logically there can never be a legitimate protest in those countries.
In the end it has no real bearing on anything since all we can do is oppose sanctions and interventions from our own countries and that is what I am already doing so my exact feelings for those states don’t really matter.
But I am not a native speaker and to be honest these long discussions are incredibly exhaustingly if you can’t express yourself properly. So I’m okay with leaving it there.
Do you realize how insane this proposition sounds to people on the ground in those countries? I'm sorry but the minute it becomes widespread knowledge the protest movements are funded and backed by hostile outside powers they are immediately invalidated to the vast majority of the population, especially the working class, again they are not stupid, they are not dupes who are tricked easily, countries who oppose US hegemony tend to be countries under siege, this understandably results in alot of nationalism so movements led by rich Westernized exile don't get much buy-in from the population who are living under western sanctions
Legitimate protests do take place, difference is they're not reported by western media corporations
Name one time the MLs were wrong and it wasn’t a color revolution. We have been consistently correct about these things, and eventually the radlibs come around and admit it (like in Syria, Libya, Hong Kong, Belarus, Cuba, Bolivia, etc where each and every time radlibs say it’s a real “working class” revolution and get proven wrong by the tankie hardliners as time goes on, and those goldfishbrained radlibs move onto the next op without any pattern recognition)
We currently have a war right now because of a color revolution but people still somehow have doubt about it. It's funny since america are sanctioning Iran to shite right now, but most international iranian not protest against that, but riot and causing chaos over fake news.