• Lib: China bad
  • Actual leftist: It's not that simple and you're being lied to.
  • Lib: ok but China still bad
  • Actual leftist: Here are some sources to read up on.
  • Lib: ugh don't make me research, it's probably propaganda, and anyway, let me reiterate my point--China bad
  • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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    4 年前

    I really wish I could look back and see what worked for me. I feel like once the ball was rolling in my head that the US media/state and the history I had learned may have been propaganda, suddenly everywhere I looked the US was doing some evil imperialist shit. How did I miss it before, how did I not make the connection?

    EDIT: this is particularly hard with anti-USSR and anti-China threads. They love slinging made up fascist talking points and then treat our questioning of sources with Holocaust denial.

    • Poetjustice [he/him]
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      4 年前

      I’ve found the best way to shut down their bad faith genocide denial bad faith arguments is to flip it on them. Accuse them of being genocide deniers themselves by enabling a group that openly advocates for exterminating the LGBTQ* community, mixed race couples and leftists. Also, there are some really incisive articles about the Falung Gong by western media sources, use those instead of Grayzone and I’ve found Reddit libs conceding over it.