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    • PresterJohnBrown [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah obviously that's what I'm saying, what else could I possibly be saying by criticizing the left "strategically" sitting out an election because "this will show those centrists" has some historically pretty negative outcomes for the left?

      • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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        You absolute fucking chowder brain.

        Electing Von Hindenburg is what got Hitler appointed Chancellor. He never won a fucking election.

        Hindenburg is the closest thing to a Biden-esque figure we have.

        The only hope in Weimar era Germany was confronting Nazi freikorps and killing them all, which the SPD refused to do.

        There was no electoral way out of fascism.

        You have no power in Bourgeois national elections. It literally doesn't matter.

        The idea that Trump is some Hitler-esque figure is a fucking fantasy, and the idea that 4-8 years of Democrats who are identical to Bush Era Republicans in outlook is a "good environment" for the left is just plugged into a fantasy of there being time for some 40 year electoral project of incremental Socialism. That's not a thing. It's never happened, and it never will.

        The challenge before us is figuring out what the fuck we're going to do, and how we're going to organize people.

        If you're running back to Bourgeois mechanisms to convince yourself you're "doing something," you're not. You're giving up to play with a busy box instead.