• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    tanks for Ukraine. Especially German ones....

    German tanks have historically been war winning weapons against Russia.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      German tanks suck. I work at a brewery and we ordered 5 german tanks we were really enthusiatic. But the damn tanks dont close properly so the air gets in.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Someone I know bought a really bougie German fridge once. Turns out it doesn't have the little buzzer that sounds if the door is left ajar and everything melted.

        Damn thing cost as much as a car and didn't have a feature that cheapo Haiers come with.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Every weapons system given to Ukraine thus far has been both a war winning Wonder Waffle and not enough to actually win the war.

        Remember when they were talking up HIMARs as the thing that would do it? Before that it was the M777. Before that the Javelin.

        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          the HIMARS thing is particularly bizarre

          "here's a slightly worse rocket artillery system than the russian one, and they have far more of their one than we're giving you. This will definitely win the war for you"

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            "It has a really long range on paper because of one specific missile that we're not going to give you. Please talk up how you're going to use that range to blow up Putin."

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            In fairness to the Ukrainians (never thought I'd say that) the Russians also have the habit of bringing out priests to bless their tanks and guns. Maybe its more normal in Orthodox Christianity.

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I was at a Russian history museum in Moscow and one of the old Imperial Russian WWI battle flags they had on display had a big ole icon of Jesus on it.

                Seriously the most 40k thing I've ever seen.

            • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              the US airforce is full of evangelical freaks and american christians constantly prayed for the troops even in my parents' mostly shitlib "moderate" franchise when i had the misfortune of attending service back during the iraq war.

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                It's so cool how many of this planet's nuclear weapons are within arms reach of doomsday cultists.

        • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          ukraine is a southrpark megachurch pastor constantly escalating the things his congregation needs to donate toward

        • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Just one shipment of Leopard 2s bro I swear it doesn't even have to be the a5 just one shipment PLEAAAASE it'll win the war bro its 300% better than a T-90 this'll turn it around I promise

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Six months later: "The Great Crimea Counteroffensive has stalled because our allies supplied us with inferior tanks and in too small quantities."

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Aren't German tanks too heavy to drive on Ukraine's shitty road-system? In particular their bridges, which are all from the soviet era, where they designed for tanks that were significantly lighter than what the west had.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Pretty much all tanks are. Sort of the joke of modern armored cavalry.

        Tanks, in general, are finicky delicate crudely engineered devices regularly prone to failure. So much of tank warfare is just about the supply lines necessary to keep the whole rolling front line up and running.

        They're also really big easy targets for advanced artillery.

        Tankies won't tell you this, but Tank Bad.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Supposedly most late Soviet tanks are lighter armored than contemporary NATO tanks specifically because the lower weight will allow them to be more mobile in Eastern European terrain. Can they stand up to a 1 to 1 with an Abrahms? No. But that doesn't matter when the Abrahms is buried in eight feet of mud.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago

            I mean, it doesn't matter when modern warfare is just a bunch of random assholes with javelin missile systems hoping to catch your T-69-420-1337 napping.

            High precision rocket propelled munitions do everything a tank pretends to do by replacing a durable piece of heavy machinery with a cluster of expendable idiots.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Aren’t German tanks too heavy to drive on Ukraine’s shitty road-system?

        I'm told that US tanks are, too.