(*) Not really, but keep hustling
I think the "Conservative Women" line is a bit misplaced. They don't necessarily believe in the "natural hierarchy" so much as they believe they benefit from said hierarchy due to some privilege or benefit they glean from the current system.
Sometimes that benefit is tangible (I get to be married to a powerful man and live in a big house with servants and spend all my time with friends and family). Sometimes not (I get peace of mind knowing I'll go to heaven and sing with the angels because I was such a good person on Earth). Sometimes its purely a consequence of intimidation (I support the patriarchy because I fear reprisal for going against it).
But there's always more on the table than a blind belief.
With Musk fanbois, whats incredibly is how little there really is on the table. There's a social aspect, certainly. And I guess you get the thrill of riding in an expensive car, which is a thing Americans have been fetishizing for over a century. But its all such meager consumerist gruel. The yield on Muskism pales in comparison to just being a devote Catholic.
With Musk fanbois, whats incredibly is how little there really is on the table
It's hard to overstate just how much techbros have their heads in their asses when it comes to futurism bullshit. We're talking a lot of them perfectly convinced the singularity is real, we'll soon be colonizing Mars, and they'll upload their consciousness into a computer before the century is out. I think this plays a role as well; Musk's bullshit validates their belief in what is basically Silicon Heaven.
Sometimes its purely a consequence of intimidation (I support the patriarchy because I fear reprisal for going against it).
But there’s always more on the table than a blind belief.
With Musk fanbois, whats incredibly is how little there really is on the table.
For some people, on some issues, there really isn’t a direct material basis for believing what they belive. This is probably a minority of people and usually on culture war stuff, but it does happen.
Not a direct material basis, no. But there is often an indirect or otherwise assumed material basis. Typically, it boils down to the assumption that my current (or future expected) quality of life is predicated defending the status quo or the current hierarchy.
With Musk, you get a bunch of empty promises about a utopian techno-futurism. But when you consider what he ultimately delivers, it consistently feels more disappointing than comparable deliveries from someone like Henry Ford or Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos. Nevermind the far more dramatic social/technological improvements made under a Deng or Khrushchev.
The cool thing about material bases is that you don't need to be cognizant of them not do they even need to be direct or overt. Billionaire worship follows from a consumerist way of life, itself a product of capitalism. It'll feed on people with insecurities or a desperation for someone to fix their problems or even just average folks that absorb pop culture nonsense like "Musk is a big inventor genius". The fanbois don't need a direct material interest in Musk's success to cheer for him, they just need to be part of the mass media discourse and a little unlucky.
They don’t necessarily believe in the “natural hierarchy” so much as they believe they benefit from said hierarchy due to some privilege or benefit they glean from the current system.
thats believing in the heirarchy if they are supporting it bubs
like in the most fundamental sense
The whole "its just natural" line tends to hinge on "natural" being something that's in your perceived self-interest
Human beings stop looking for a magic bullet hypothesis for any and every phenomenon challenge
My point is that both parties here are making absolute statements to explain a phenomenon.
Based on everything I've ever read about feudalism, no serf ever simped as hard for their lord as tech bros simp for Musk. Not even close.
My SIL is into all that New Age Crystal shit (deeply conservative at heart) but whenever she says something about her spirituality she creates (or reinforces existing) hierarchies. One of the ways this comes across is by claiming innate personality traits and spiritual connections that cannot be learned. Also when cosmic forces show preference towards her it is because she is special above others.
I get that. I'm the world's oldest indigo child and I can see people vibrate. Sometimes they only vibrate at a low frequency, like when they're crying on a park bench, and I tell them "I'm better than you."
She will complain about her boyfriend’s lack of ability to love himself and others and that she has a greater capacity to love.
She really enjoys saying that she had a “feeling that X would happen” but only ever says it after the fact. I’ve asked her why she didn’t act upon her feelings if she “knew” what would happen beforehand and I don’t think she considers that a valid question.
She’s a selfish person who might also have borderline personality disorder
I get that. I'm kind of an empath. I get a special sense of people's emotions which is actually deeper than they can feel them. Sometimes my kid says they're sad and I make them go to their room because it makes me act sadder so everyone focuses on me instead.
She claims she’s a reflector and that her asshole parents are manifestors
But it's also hard to rule out how immensely self-fulfilling these systems are. We've all grown up in systems that implicitly (and often explicitly) make it clear that these people at the top earned it, or are indeed necessary, and that means people assume it's correct. I don't think those myths, or the systems that sustain them, originally came about from people who 'don't want to be in charge of themselves', but rather from the men with big sticks who wanted them to be like that.
Why do people fight for their servitude as if it were their salvation?
