Oh the Ai art generator has no "soul" and it's soy and reddit? This precious art form (illustrating things that other people pay you to, a medium dominated almost entirely by furries, porn, and furry porn) is being destroyed by the evil AI? I'm sorry that the democratization of art creation is so upsetting to you. I've brought dozens of ideas to life by typing words into a prompt and I didn't have to pay someone $300 to do so.

      • macabrett
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        2 years ago

        more like AI art is implicitly less interesting because it doesn't have human skill, it doesn't have inspiration, and it doesn't have meaning

        it's literally a machine taking an input (stolen art) and giving an output based on some words

        this isn't democratizing art, it's making idea guys think they're artists

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          less interesting because it doesn’t have human skill, it doesn’t have inspiration, and it doesn’t have meaning

          Thank you, exactly what I was talking about in the OP.

        • Dawn_Beveridge [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I'm sorry, but I have trouble interpreting it as anything other than a 'pull yourself by your bootstrap'. Is that really the main argument against AI, that it facilitates labour?

              • hypercube [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                I think it's more that they think you should value the process of creating art, of which you will gain little to no understanding from typing into the DALL-E hole, but you will when you engage in your classical field of choice. imo the main argument against it is that, as a tool of automation under capital, it is built using the work of the proletariat but used to concentrate power & wealth by the bougeoisie. really not too different from the automatic loom or w/e, not ontologically evil but currently being turned against those who made it possible in the first place

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Let me just magic all the time in the world plus talent because "work hard" literally does not work for everyone just because I think it'd be kinda funny to see an image of Gandalf boxing with Shrek and don't wanna pay someone out of the money I don't have to see it

      • macabrett
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        2 years ago

        okay so AI art is consumerist bullshit that you don't want to pay for, got it

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          okay so AI art bad because literally every single human being is a nascent artist with the talent to make its pursuit worthwhile and has all the time in the world to devote to improvement, got it

          • macabrett
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            2 years ago

            no, it's bad because it takes other people's art without permission and constructs something new from it with zero inspiration

              • macabrett
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                2 years ago

                software developer that knows "machine learning" is just a name for something that takes input and lumps it together with other input

            • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I make shitty art, that doesn't mean I feel entitled to someone using it in like some D&D campaign with players going :awooga: "wow looks so good!" and I'm not naive enough to think that "just keep practicing" definitively equates to the development of skill for every single person on the planet

                • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  nobody thinks this. you’re basically just making up people to argue with.

                  dawg,

                  Not everybody has the talent to make art that’s worth looking at

                  then you work at it, it’s a skill like any other

                  literally comments above this

          • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Then I don't understand why you feel art is only worth creating or viewing unless it fits conventional, subjective ideas

            I don't know how to play guitar but there's entire genres of music that people listen to that don't fit the mold of what is "good"

            • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              because depending on the context of the art, i.e. whether it's some sort of therapeutic self expression (the art I do), or someone trying to make something aesthetically appealing to another person, it literally does matter how it looks

              Everyone has always been able to make art, that’s not something that’s suddenly changed with this new technology

              everyone can technically put ink on paper and say they did an art, but now with AI art someone with no technical skill, training, or ability (whether artistic ability or the literal physical ability to make art, i.e. someone with Parkinson's) can direct the computer to make something that actually looks pretty decent, which might not matter to you but if someone wants to have some art to go with a book they're writing or an album cover or their Dungeons and Dragons campaign or whatever they're now able to do so (without shelling out what might be an unfeasible amount of money to pay an Actual Artist)