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  • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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    Don't get me wrong, Joe Biden will not stop climate change.

    I genuinely don't think humanity will stop it at this point, it's about how soon it happens and how fast it spirals out of control to the point of causing billions to die.

    He will continue to advance it, but not as fast.

    I despise the dude but you'd be insane to over-irony to the point of claiming Trump is better for the third world even considering the damage he's doing to the climate.

    Downvoting instinctually is shitty too.

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        The scales we're working with aren't that tight. Trump is actively deregulating industry and destroying the EPA, opening up protected lands for oil extraction, etc.

        Joe Biden will at least not deregulate the regulations Obama put in place, obviously. And committing trillions to climate action is seriously a lot, even if it's less than Bernie and still not 'enough'.

        Guessing a number for the difference in policy between the two over the next four years (and likely more than four, for either of them) is nonsense because neither of us have real numbers there, but the difference is not total collapse of 4 years sooner.

        Even a 10 year gap or a 20 year gap for technology to develop and those developing nations to prepare saves billions of people. So yes, it does matter, despite the true doomerism of the situation as a whole we're talking the scale of billions of human lives and suffering.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      People are convincing themselves that Biden sucking must mean he's as bad as Trump or worse than Trump on every single issue.

      • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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        I know, it's going a bit too far. We love to irony post, but the trap that comes with an entire site of irony-posting is attempting to out-irony each other, and irony slips into genuine posting eventually.

        Trump is dramatically worse for the climate than Biden. Biden is nowhere near enough.