Both my roommates got jury summons but not me. I been in twice but never seated on a jury.
getting seated on a jury is something only the "middle class" can even afford, like, they pay you like 10 bucks a day or some shit, like my landlord would take that for an excuse
It is crazy how blatantly jury selection is discriminatory against workers.Jury selection should be one worker from each wendy's in a county. It wouldnt be perfect but itd be immensely more just
Often times having been or having known a victim of a crime is enough for a lawyer to strike you from selection. So imagine the population that leaves you with. I got bounced for occasionally working with the police as an ambulance once.
"Has anyone here ever been sa'd?"
"Okay yeah we're just going to dismiss every woman"
Ironically those who need it least get it, which seems like obvious grounds for the state to tax higher and compensate fairly for jury duty. I know several employers that only have middle class programmer/consultant employees that cover jury duty. Honestly if I got the right trial (some non-violent drug shit or whatever) and they didn't take peoples' phones during the trial/deliberations, I could probably do my job from jury duty.
if you ever try to nullify a jury be prepared to feel the most hated you ever have in your whole life. I still shudder to this day.....
I've never done it, but being the soul voice in the room keeping people from earning income, seeing their kids, seeing their spouse, watching football, and masturbating is not going to make you friends.
No yeah there's a whole Malcom in the middle episode about that aspect haha
the person was pulled over with drugs in their car. it was pretty obvious they were guilty and you can't just say "I'm doing the nullification thing y'all". So I have to come up with reasons why the obviously guilty person might not have been guilty and be grilled by a bunch of people how dumb I am for 3 days.
So they all KNOW you are pulling some bullshit and being difficult on purpose.
And the judge knows you're pulling some shit because these things never last longer than lunch and he will NOT let you off the hook.
I argued that I wanted to see the beginning of the traffic stop so I could know the whole thing was legal. But you're supposed to make your decision based on the evidence the court makes available to you. And that's that. There's not any room to argue around that. So I just pretended to miss the point for 3 days until I couldn't take it anymore and caved.
I wish there was a drug or surgery that could purge this memory from my brain.
Reminds me of a story I read of some poor lady who was on jury duty who was trying to help out some folks who were going to be kicked out by their landlord. The family (a Mexican family I think?) were fortunate to be in a rent controlled apartment and the landlord wanted them out; he was looking for literally any excuse and unfortunately found it. There was a laundry room in the building that the lady of the family <used to do something with, I think something that got her laundry done for free>, but here's the kicker: everyone in the building used to do the same, she literally wasn't the only one but her family was getting the boot for it. Obviously the landlord wanted them out so he could raise rent for that apartment.
The lady on jury duty and one other lady were both the only 'not guilty' people on the jury, and she tried to plead the family's case to the folks and might have had a chance if not for some (lib? chud?) who insisted that the family had done wrong and had to go. She told them that basically they were going to create a homeless family, that they were going to consign the family to the streets, but the guy basically chewed her out and where she might have had a chance, this guy was basically telling her to be quiet and making light of her arguments. She failed to convince the other jurors, and they all got to go home (even the lib/chud) except for the poor family.
EDIT: Either the person posted this on the old chapo sub, or on late stage capitalism, but it was definitely posted on a left leaning subreddit.
Could have been a civil suit of some kind which would be majority. Also there may be a country or other jurisdiction where this sort of criminal case is a majority decision
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the rule for all cases; I was curious myself when I made my post so I looked it up and it seems to mainly be federal cases that require a unanimous vote.
I definitely remember this post. I think somehow it had a happy ending and the family found a place to live - or there was some kind of prologue to it - but I’m super fuzzy on the details.
Last time I got jury duty, the defendant was up on a jive ass charge. I didn’t make it through the selection process. I should have lied better. They asked me some stupid question too, like “do you always believe the word of a cop no matter what.”
The correct answer in this case is, "Well, it's their job to know the law. I trust the experts." Not a lie.
