Which will basically let state governments (minus the governor or judiciary) overturn their electoral results, meaning that if enough StopTheSteal politicians in enough states want to, they could just negate how their states voted and hand 2024 off to Trump or Desantis even if Biden wins at first :agony-limitless:
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Unfortunately this country is so brain washed and misinformed that simply the act of voting is all many of them consider to be democracy. What happens with those votes or done by the local governments or courts is kinda just not relevant in their minds. For at least my generation seeing FL steal the election for Bush and all the bullshit that they were able to get away with was a very clear wake up call that none of this shit is actually democratic. I know other stuff happened long before and long after but that was a defining moment for me
I've been telling people this since, like, at least when RBG died. It's over. Electoralism has failed. Liberal Democracy has failed. We're in a one party dictatorship now, people just haven't woken up to that.
I'd argue it dates back further then that (liberals have been feckless and weak for decades), but it really just becomes a semantical distinction.
We are definitely entering Cool Zone™ territory, and I don't recall conservatives ever being quite so openly aggressive and unashamed
I don’t recall conservatives ever being quite so openly aggressive and unashamed
1936?
lol, should have clarified that I meant in my (admittedly short) life
She should have fucking resigned. Obama could have appointed a safe judge. But noooo...
Obama should have appointed a judge over the Senate's head and dared them to do anything about it, but alas, he's a fucking loser.
And yeah, RBGs sheer arrogance is only topped by the infuriating idiocy of the people who continue to idolize her after she fucked over basically the whole planet.
I saw this sign in someone's yard today
https://i.etsystatic.com/24484236/r/il/85a99a/2589507487/il_794xN.2589507487_33kn.jpg
Boggles the mind.
A revolutionary class cannot but wish for the defeat of its government in a reactionary war.
so please let this kill this shit country.
MFW the US is now a one-party state under the GOP just because they had one lucky day in 2016.
Balkanization when?
just because they had one lucky day
Nah. Obama refusing to seat a Justice when McConnell stonewalled him, RBG refusing to resign, Obama refusing to bomb the Bundy fucks. Hell, the USAPATRIOT act. This has been a long time coming.
It's been a one party state since a bunch of slaveowners in wigs said they don't like taxes in 1776
i really dont think it was the taxes they objected to.
wasnt it the fact that the british didnt (at that time) let them steal more indian land?
That too was also a major contributing factor. The class interests of said slaveowners in wigs were threatened by the British crown for several reasons, and entire civil wars rarely break out for just one reason. The U.S. civil war ~80 years later was kind of an exception to that
American Civil War also was for a bunch of reasons from slavery to tariffs.
the federal govt isnt allowed to do anything except have an army, gee how convenient. but maybe this will break up America and we can go to being 50 separate countries like we should be. that's a win in my book.
The US Military is notoriously very cool with regional break-aways operating outside the control of the empire. We definitely haven't seen the Pentagon use balkinization as a means of dividing and conquering a country, then fusing it back together again under a military dictatorship.
Fuck, idk. Maybe? Or maybe we just kinda trundle on as a loose confederacy of dunces until the wheels fall off
I don't think there's much of a plan. the failsons can't do shit anymore except bloat budgets
That sentiment is reasonable but I think this is actually going to suck: states get to do the bad stuff but not the good stuff, same for the feds. The SC isn't consistent and will just make shit up and dress it in legalese to do what they want.
yea itll be bad for many former americans, but probably better for the planet.
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i am vibrating with anticipation
Courts going to end up undermining all federal authority.
California will become the defacto center of regulations is my guess. This has already happened with carb emission for car manufacturing
I don't think it matters
The courts are going to be ignored eventually. Who's going to force California to do this or that?
We already have law enforcement not listening to certain states government. We are currently in a death spiral of the federal governments legitimacy.
Cruel machinations spring to life with a singular purpose! :amerikkka:
the constitution failed miserably only 85 years after it was written
get ready for the farce version
If the US becomes a one party state, I'm sure the party of controlled opposition will be very sad as they collect their generous retirement bonuses for a job well done
The US can't operate as a one-party state. All that energy consumed by inter-party politics would be focused into the center of the surviving party and crack it like an egg. What's more, people cut out of the political system would still agitate and organize. They'd just do it outside the corals established by the liberal democratic process.
Biden's running in 2024?
Jesus. He has all the classic signs of dementia. Trying to talk to people who have died, holding his hands like The Great Cornholio (motor dysfunction), wandering away, sudden bursts of anger. But who are the Dems going to run instead? The bench is empty. The GOP has a ton of young people full of piss and vinegar, but the Dems are like a geriatric care facility. Maybe Liz Cheney?
they might run her in the primary if they need to sheepdog some radlibs, but they won't let her win the nomination
Nono, you don't get it. They won't allow state legislators do that when there was no electoral fraud. They would only allow state legislators to intervene if there was electoral fraud. Also, state legislatures are the ones who get to say if there was electoral fraud. Simple as.
Can't wait for a contested Electoral College vote with competing slates of electors.
Just kidding, Libs would never be that confrontational.
Remember when the electoral college was going to save us from a fascist in the White House? The election was over, but they were going to save us.
And then Hillary had more faithless electors than Trump! :doomjak:
Yall think this is so they can enshrine GOP forever more, no. Capital doesn't give a shit if it's GOP or Dems (and neither do they, winning doesnt matter anymore). They did this because they had the fear of God put in em when Bernie - a tepid mild socdem, no communist - almost won a primary. So they're patching out the legalistic electoralism option and if anyone dares get close to the big kahuna office again they have the emergency stop button.
It's probably more the GOP enshrinement, to be honest. We're at the culmination of a ~40 year, explicitly planned right-wing takeover of the federal judiciary.
