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  • PurrLure [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    Hey, you. If you're disgusted by this but still eating animal products this free documentary might help you make the final push.

    Me personally, I'm autistic with a binge eating disorder and I used to think I could never become vegetarian, much less vegan. Pretty much all my favorite cope foods used to have meat in them and some of them were just meat. This spring marks my 3 year vegan anniversary in large part because I watched Dominion and confronted the truth with genuine curiosity. I'm not going to lie to you and say it'll be easy. It's a big life change. Enough of a change that people will treat you differently once they know, for better and for worse. But it is easier than it used to be even just a couple years ago and as more people become vegan there are more resources available. I would personally be willing to help you if you need any advice, and I'm sure plenty of other vegans on here would answer questions as well.

    (A general abuse/mass death NSFL CW for Dominion, you will not be able to unsee the footage or watch the behind the scenes footage of actors covered in fake gore making jokes like you would with a scary movie. It's all real.)

    • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      how do vegans get enough protein (for me, 3 servings per day of at least 20g each) without getting tired of constantly eating beans? it seems boring to the point of being depressing

      this sounds like a joke but it's unironically probably my biggest barrier to going vegan right now

      Death to America

      • dat_math [they/them]
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        8 months ago

        getting tired of constantly eating beans

        skill issue tbh

        practice cooking more and with a greater variety of flavor profiles. Pick a culture whose food you like and learn a few bean based recipes from that culture. If you like indian food, try a few different daals or curries with tofu, broccoli, cauliflower.

        also, nuts exist.

        edit correction:

        broccoli has about as much more than half the protein per calorie of tofu

        cauliflor and brussels sprouts have similar ratios

        mushrooms have tons almost as much protein per calorie as tofu

        • 420stalin69
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          8 months ago

          broccoli has about as much protein per calorie as tofu

          Holy shit

          • RaisedFistJoker [she/her]
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            8 months ago

            according to the usda

            Fried tofu has 270kcal per 100g and 18.8g of protein ~0.07g/kcal

            Fried broccoli has 223kcal per 100g and 4g protein ~ 0.02g/kcal

            Raw firm tofu has 144kcal per 100g and 17.3g of protein ~ 0.12g/kcal

            Raw broccoli has 39kcal per 100g and 2.6g protein ~ 0.07g/kcal

            The claim isnt true. While the raw numbers are fairly comparable (even then its a 70% increase from broc to tofu), no one is eating raw fucking anything. I dont disagree with the skill issue part. 20g protein is absurdly easy to get when you remember bread and pasta has like 7g protein per 100g, and the wide variety of legume based cuisunes should probably never get stale to be boring, but the idea that broccoli is a protein rich food is laughable.

            Also what mushrooms have tons of protein, all mushrooms i look at have the same as broccoli!

            Beech mushroom: 2g/100g

            Crimini mushroom: 3g/100g

            Enoki mushroom: 2.4g/100g

            Maitake mushroom: 2.4g/100g

            Oyster mushroom 2.9g/100g

            Pioppini mushroom: 3.5g/100g

            Portabella mushroom: 2.8g/100g

            Shiitake mushroom: 2.4g/100g

            etc etc etc

            • dat_math [they/them]
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              8 months ago

              Thanks for the correction!

              My memory of the protein contents of broccoli and mushrooms was a bit exaggerated, but I maintain that for their protein contents, I'd rather eat more broccoli and mushrooms than bread or pasta.

              I'm no nutritional scientist or body builder, so my dietary planning is almost certainly too simple and vague to be anywhere close to optimal: keep total calories < a dynamic amount determined by vibes and how much activity I've done that day (on my last backpacking trip it was almost 3000kcal/day because I was walking 10+ miles a day with 30 lbs on my back, but most days it's closer to half that) and otherwise get 80-100g of protein per day distributed as uniformly as I can throughout the day.

              This is a reproduction of the spreadsheet I misremembered that I made few years ago when I started thinking more seriously about my health and nutrition:

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              edit: fixed an error in my calculation of oyster mushroom nutrient per kcal cells; it's on par with whole grain bread and tofu and has more fiber than the latter

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          8 months ago

          "Protein per calorie" is a bit of a cherry-picked metric, tbh. No one is eating 1000 calories of broccoli in a sitting.

            • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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              8 months ago

              If you are eating 3 kg of broccoli in a sitting, my hat is on the floor for you

      • Azarova [they/them]
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        8 months ago

        Seitan makes a really good vegan protein as long as you don't have a gluten sensitivity hail-seitan