I think its dumb to shit on a cuisine like that and you are small-minded for doing so. Someone on here did the same with French food, seen it online about Slavic food, Philipines, Cuban, etc. Same energy. Like fuck off, its a whole country. You think they don't have nice things to eat in a whole country? Who are you, the food critic from the rat movie? Snob. Food is delicious everywhere at any price point. Not every single place is good, but everywhere has good food I mean. Have you ever even been to the UK or are you just copying internet slogans again?
I mean there are actual, historic reasons that "British food" is bad and bland (tl;dr: war rationing annihilating older recipes and leaving a generation with stunted tastes) and has been partially supplanted by food from immigrant cultures. For most of their history European foods would have been heavily limited in available ingredients but people work out how to make do and get flavor out of what grows locally, but capitalism and the wars of the 20th century destroyed a whole lot of that.
I have a theory that the same is true of American food in a similar way to how it's true of American beers, which had their traditional recipes and production methods destroyed by first Prohibition and then both a corporate stranglehold and war rationing leading to the better part of a century where more or less all the beer being produced and consumed in the US was just the absolute worst garbage. Capitalist normalization of specific shelf-stable and easily mass-produced foods fucked the tastes of multiple generations, along with obscenely cheap meat and dairy products and the glut of corn syrup meaning all the knowledge and traditions and skills involved in cooking were wiped away, rendered unnecessary by frozen packs of cured meats surrounded by flavorless over-steamed shelf-stable/machine-harvest-durable vegetable bits and noodles swimming in sugar sauce being sold to people rendered too exhausted by the demands of capitalism to put more than the minimum of effort into food prep.
Or how about curry is good and also french fries (British food) are also good? How about yummy food tastes good in my tummy and who gives a shit about the world wars. American beer is terrible now? Comrade, a pbr can costs a dollar fifty at the bar and the second one tastes better than the first one, I promise!
Honestly, I do understand that there is a very high ceiling for how good food can be (less so for beer but also). I've had the good stuff! It was great. Its just, my relationship with food is a loving one, I don't understand the relentless hate! That country made the munchie box, gregg's, etc. Lovely! Bourbons, chocolate digestives with tea, scones with jam and cream! All that bland wartime hard-tack food, give it to me please! Snobs are rotten. Oh you don't like Britney Spears. Lady Gaga sucks huh? Good for you! Shut up!
I did say that food from immigrant cultures has partially filled in the void left by the annihilation of traditional recipes. Like you look at old British recipes and they're often going to be more flavorful than mid-to-late 20th century recipes, and there are material reasons for that. I can't speak to the state of things in the UK now, but in the US it seems like there's a sort of renaissance of people trying to relearn how to actually cook (in a similar fashion to how breweries started producing better beers and rediscovering how to do better than just making pre-skunked slop by the ton) and a lot of more flavorful adaptations from other cultures are becoming standard foods to edge in on 20th century American food which is also having to innovate a bit and start to be made better.
Comrade, a pbr can costs a dollar fifty at the bar
That is an awful deal. You can get an actually good beer for that much a bottle in a six pack from the grocery store, and you can get cheap garbage beers for like 50 cents a can or bottle sometimes. Bottom shelf vodka and store-brand soda is even better, working out to like a quarter per drink.
I do understand that there is a very high ceiling for how good food can be (less so for beer but also). I’ve had the good stuff!
I want to stress that there's a difference between good food and expensive food. Even the cheapest ingredients can easily be turned into amazing food, and expensive foods are often lazy garbage that's just trying to rest on the decadence of its ingredients. Which sort of circles back around to my point, that people when limited in their options innovate and find methods of cooking what they have available in a way that makes it good, while the glut of cheap "decadent" ingredients combined with the push for shelf-stability over quality has had the exact opposite effect, where instead of learning methods to make something good people just slap something expensive (or something that should be expensive given the material costs its production has) in a pan and settle for that.
You are massively condescending! When I say good food I mean good food! Don't assume I mean expensive. When I say at the bar I mean at the bar, like with a bartender involved! Its actually more expensive than that because you have to tip. Take your shitty vodka and faygo back to middle school, that is actually disgusting and worth being a snob to avoid!
I already know all that shit, don't talk to me like a child! Did you just learn all this or something, that you need so much to lecture about it? Are you writing a paper? You are repeating yourself needlessly, you were perfectly clear originally. And correct but I don't care! I like ploughman's lunch and shephard's pie. I like a cornish pasty. I mean, I'm vegan now but I liked them plenty before I was. These are bad food? Categorically? What a sad life to be such a hater!
When I say at the bar I mean at the bar, like with a bartender involved!
"I want to pay top-shelf prices to have a beleaguered food service worker hand me a can of bottom shelf slop, for some reason. I really have a pressing need to feel power over someone, so I can clap and squeal with glee as I throw money around to make them take a can out of a box for me."
Not everyone can afford to pay a 300% markup on slop for the "fun" of being waited on.
Take your shitty vodka and faygo back to middle school, that is actually disgusting and worth being a snob to avoid!
Vodka and tap water is better than any cheap beer, at a tenth the cost. It's awful, but it doesn't taste like cheerios, sugar, and metal with an undercurrent of rot the way the absolute worst beers do. Bad beers just really have no place: they're way too expensive for how bad they are, and they're not meaningfully cheaper than much better beers. Beer of all fermented drinks has such a cheap practical ceiling on quality that you hit it around the point where you start getting into the price range of bottom shelf wines (which also have no place because they're as bad as bottom shelf beer but cost way more). For bad cheap drinks nothing beats liquor, and for good cheap drinks good beer is still affordable enough to justify over bad beer.
“I want to pay top-shelf prices to have a beleaguered food service worker hand me a can of bottom shelf slop, for some reason. I really have a pressing need to feel power over someone, so I can clap and squeal with glee as I throw money around to make them take a can out of a box for me.” basically yes you have got me exactly, except there is often also loud music and the clapping and squealing is sort of along to the beat.
Just flippin it on you, I don't actually hate vodka. I pretty much like anything. Except malt liquor
Every other post I have made was but not this one. I am not the crazy one for thinking it is closed-minded and rude to just say "food from x country is bad". They have great boxed sandwiches for example
Funny because "I think all the food that comes from a foriegn country is bad" strikes me as exactly the sort of thing a nasty British person would say and I am saying the exact opposite!
Oui mate, may I call you bruv? I swear from the gates above I'll bust open your gums fore taking shite on beans on toast ya.
The thing is a presumed Yankee candle dickless dangle like yourself cannot appreciate the subtle flavour of syrupy canned beans on some damp, yet dry rectangle wheat.
I've never had English eels but unagi is one of my favorite fish for sushi, same thing but raw! An eel is just a fish. And blood pudding is good and no weirder or more gross than any other sausage (the family it belongs in, despite the name). Which is pretty gross tbf, sausage is gross, hot dogs are gross. But yummy for me to eat yum!
That said, and with your username I am sure you agree. A full English is just a ruinous decision internally
I remember seeing a thread of 4chan about how white people's taste buds have evolved and become too advanced to the point where spices and seasoning are obsolete, and that's why they prefer bland food unlike the coloreds who still need salt and pepper
Genuinely why is it not great? I think bastardization is good. Indo-Chinese food is excellent but it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.
Actually think about how much maslsa chai is a bastardization of of Chinese tea! It was smuggled out of their country and then we added milk, sugar, ginger, sometimes cardamom, cloves, black pepper.
Haven't actually tasted the dish myself so maybe it sucks
Scotland is not like India they came in as full partners, the royal family post union was even the Scottish king.
The Scottish agreed to join in a union and let the new British empire use their larger army in return for the English providing Scottish aristocrats access to the slave trade.
They were England's partners in crime not the victim and Scotland being poorer than England now is simply a natural consequence of Scotland in comparison to England being rural and sparsely populated.
The reason Montana has less money moving through it than New York is not due to New York colonially occupying Montana
I'm Indian and I agree with this. If a Desi person moves to the UK or America and then lives the majority of their life there then I think it's ok to call them British or American or from wherever they now are.
To be fair, a British person would probably be shocked to eat buttered toast
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I think its dumb to shit on a cuisine like that and you are small-minded for doing so. Someone on here did the same with French food, seen it online about Slavic food, Philipines, Cuban, etc. Same energy. Like fuck off, its a whole country. You think they don't have nice things to eat in a whole country? Who are you, the food critic from the rat movie? Snob. Food is delicious everywhere at any price point. Not every single place is good, but everywhere has good food I mean. Have you ever even been to the UK or are you just copying internet slogans again?
I mean there are actual, historic reasons that "British food" is bad and bland (tl;dr: war rationing annihilating older recipes and leaving a generation with stunted tastes) and has been partially supplanted by food from immigrant cultures. For most of their history European foods would have been heavily limited in available ingredients but people work out how to make do and get flavor out of what grows locally, but capitalism and the wars of the 20th century destroyed a whole lot of that.
I have a theory that the same is true of American food in a similar way to how it's true of American beers, which had their traditional recipes and production methods destroyed by first Prohibition and then both a corporate stranglehold and war rationing leading to the better part of a century where more or less all the beer being produced and consumed in the US was just the absolute worst garbage. Capitalist normalization of specific shelf-stable and easily mass-produced foods fucked the tastes of multiple generations, along with obscenely cheap meat and dairy products and the glut of corn syrup meaning all the knowledge and traditions and skills involved in cooking were wiped away, rendered unnecessary by frozen packs of cured meats surrounded by flavorless over-steamed shelf-stable/machine-harvest-durable vegetable bits and noodles swimming in sugar sauce being sold to people rendered too exhausted by the demands of capitalism to put more than the minimum of effort into food prep.
Or how about curry is good and also french fries (British food) are also good? How about yummy food tastes good in my tummy and who gives a shit about the world wars. American beer is terrible now? Comrade, a pbr can costs a dollar fifty at the bar and the second one tastes better than the first one, I promise!
Honestly, I do understand that there is a very high ceiling for how good food can be (less so for beer but also). I've had the good stuff! It was great. Its just, my relationship with food is a loving one, I don't understand the relentless hate! That country made the munchie box, gregg's, etc. Lovely! Bourbons, chocolate digestives with tea, scones with jam and cream! All that bland wartime hard-tack food, give it to me please! Snobs are rotten. Oh you don't like Britney Spears. Lady Gaga sucks huh? Good for you! Shut up!
I did say that food from immigrant cultures has partially filled in the void left by the annihilation of traditional recipes. Like you look at old British recipes and they're often going to be more flavorful than mid-to-late 20th century recipes, and there are material reasons for that. I can't speak to the state of things in the UK now, but in the US it seems like there's a sort of renaissance of people trying to relearn how to actually cook (in a similar fashion to how breweries started producing better beers and rediscovering how to do better than just making pre-skunked slop by the ton) and a lot of more flavorful adaptations from other cultures are becoming standard foods to edge in on 20th century American food which is also having to innovate a bit and start to be made better.
That is an awful deal. You can get an actually good beer for that much a bottle in a six pack from the grocery store, and you can get cheap garbage beers for like 50 cents a can or bottle sometimes. Bottom shelf vodka and store-brand soda is even better, working out to like a quarter per drink.
I want to stress that there's a difference between good food and expensive food. Even the cheapest ingredients can easily be turned into amazing food, and expensive foods are often lazy garbage that's just trying to rest on the decadence of its ingredients. Which sort of circles back around to my point, that people when limited in their options innovate and find methods of cooking what they have available in a way that makes it good, while the glut of cheap "decadent" ingredients combined with the push for shelf-stability over quality has had the exact opposite effect, where instead of learning methods to make something good people just slap something expensive (or something that should be expensive given the material costs its production has) in a pan and settle for that.
You are massively condescending! When I say good food I mean good food! Don't assume I mean expensive. When I say at the bar I mean at the bar, like with a bartender involved! Its actually more expensive than that because you have to tip. Take your shitty vodka and faygo back to middle school, that is actually disgusting and worth being a snob to avoid!
I already know all that shit, don't talk to me like a child! Did you just learn all this or something, that you need so much to lecture about it? Are you writing a paper? You are repeating yourself needlessly, you were perfectly clear originally. And correct but I don't care! I like ploughman's lunch and shephard's pie. I like a cornish pasty. I mean, I'm vegan now but I liked them plenty before I was. These are bad food? Categorically? What a sad life to be such a hater!
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"I want to pay top-shelf prices to have a beleaguered food service worker hand me a can of bottom shelf slop, for some reason. I really have a pressing need to feel power over someone, so I can clap and squeal with glee as I throw money around to make them take a can out of a box for me."
Not everyone can afford to pay a 300% markup on slop for the "fun" of being waited on.
Vodka and tap water is better than any cheap beer, at a tenth the cost. It's awful, but it doesn't taste like cheerios, sugar, and metal with an undercurrent of rot the way the absolute worst beers do. Bad beers just really have no place: they're way too expensive for how bad they are, and they're not meaningfully cheaper than much better beers. Beer of all fermented drinks has such a cheap practical ceiling on quality that you hit it around the point where you start getting into the price range of bottom shelf wines (which also have no place because they're as bad as bottom shelf beer but cost way more). For bad cheap drinks nothing beats liquor, and for good cheap drinks good beer is still affordable enough to justify over bad beer.
“I want to pay top-shelf prices to have a beleaguered food service worker hand me a can of bottom shelf slop, for some reason. I really have a pressing need to feel power over someone, so I can clap and squeal with glee as I throw money around to make them take a can out of a box for me.” basically yes you have got me exactly, except there is often also loud music and the clapping and squealing is sort of along to the beat.
Just flippin it on you, I don't actually hate vodka. I pretty much like anything. Except malt liquor
impossible to be condescending to a brit. they are bog humans lacking a capacity to understand insults
Ok? That's not really relevant to me
those are very famously french. There is good British food but listing French food somewhat misses the point
part of the issue also is Americans don't think about the fact a lot of recipes they regularly make and eat are British. Apple pie for example
Triple Cooked Chips
The perfect chip is British. There may be a lot wrong with our food culture but not deep fried potatoes.
BZZZZZZZZTTTTT WRONG
Is this a bit?
Every other post I have made was but not this one. I am not the crazy one for thinking it is closed-minded and rude to just say "food from x country is bad". They have great boxed sandwiches for example
worse, a brit
Funny because "I think all the food that comes from a foriegn country is bad" strikes me as exactly the sort of thing a nasty British person would say and I am saying the exact opposite!
Oui mate, may I call you bruv? I swear from the gates above I'll bust open your gums fore taking shite on beans on toast ya.
The thing is a presumed Yankee candle dickless dangle like yourself cannot appreciate the subtle flavour of syrupy canned beans on some damp, yet dry rectangle wheat.
Hating on beans on Hexbear.net!
the English eat boiled bog eels and make pudding out of blood lol
I've never had English eels but unagi is one of my favorite fish for sushi, same thing but raw! An eel is just a fish. And blood pudding is good and no weirder or more gross than any other sausage (the family it belongs in, despite the name). Which is pretty gross tbf, sausage is gross, hot dogs are gross. But yummy for me to eat yum!
That said, and with your username I am sure you agree. A full English is just a ruinous decision internally
We fully agree on this. I have IBS.
I remember seeing a thread of 4chan about how white people's taste buds have evolved and become too advanced to the point where spices and seasoning are obsolete, and that's why they prefer bland food unlike the coloreds who still need salt and pepper
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When you take the red pill, you have to eat the soggy cornflake sludge that they ate after leaving the Matrix
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Indian food heavily uses tomatoes and chilies these days but that was stolen from South America.
Tea grows in India because a dude (Robert Fortune ) smuggled it out of China in the 1800s funnily enough
Chicken Tikka Masala is Scottish. There's really no winning this one for Britain.
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Tell that to the Scots.
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the br*tish attempt at curries are embarrassing and a step away from ketchup
Indians love ketchup. We put ketchup in our instant noodles (Maagi is the most common brand) and pizza
Ketchup is great. Curry is even better. Engl*sh people serving you bastardized ketchup they claim is curry is not great.
Genuinely why is it not great? I think bastardization is good. Indo-Chinese food is excellent but it bears little resemblance to actual Chinese food.
Actually think about how much maslsa chai is a bastardization of of Chinese tea! It was smuggled out of their country and then we added milk, sugar, ginger, sometimes cardamom, cloves, black pepper.
Haven't actually tasted the dish myself so maybe it sucks
Yeah, I’ve basically never eaten food from a brit*sh restaurant that wasn’t massively under seasoned.
I’m all for remixing and bastardizing and combining food to make something new, It just has to be done well.
Engl*sh colonialism created an arrogance towards other cultures that has resulted in the majority of their cuisine being a boring mess.
Scotland is not like India they came in as full partners, the royal family post union was even the Scottish king.
The Scottish agreed to join in a union and let the new British empire use their larger army in return for the English providing Scottish aristocrats access to the slave trade. They were England's partners in crime not the victim and Scotland being poorer than England now is simply a natural consequence of Scotland in comparison to England being rural and sparsely populated.
The reason Montana has less money moving through it than New York is not due to New York colonially occupying Montana
I'm Indian and I agree with this. If a Desi person moves to the UK or America and then lives the majority of their life there then I think it's ok to call them British or American or from wherever they now are.
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Britain =/= England, it's the word for all 3 countries. You are mistaking it for England
hilarious how upset this made the bog people
bad take, this is a dumb colonizer mindset
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:british-maw: ya meen ya kin poot things wut ain't beans ohn toast?