October 17th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

October 18th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

Next update will be next Friday, but I'll be poking around the thread during that time. Next thread will go up on Monday like usual.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • DootDoot [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    So what do people here think about Hu Jintao getting escorted off? Looks like he said something to Xi as he was leaving.

    • thirstywizard [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      At standard he's older, slower, probably had somewhere to be and needed to be reminded/assisted that he had to leave a little early to beat the crowd, and probably said whatever well wishes, advice, whatever people in that position say to someone else coming in on the way out.

      At absolute worst I'd guess he probably made a fuss about the Congress' plans moving CN too fast, he was more the reserved slow and gradual improvement sort and perhaps made this be known in some way which didn't look good before the concluding ceremony. I'd lean toward the first over the second, don't trust who I've seen cover the event so far.

    • Gogoplata [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Eh, we don’t k ow what was said and I doubt we are going to. As was, and ever shall be, I trust Xi.

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Probably health reason. Like, the dude is 79 and look pretty bad health wise. The western speculate too much on something that seem so little.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Mango Press is suggesting it was health related, but they haven't provided any details or source for that.

    • Eldungeon [none/use name]
      ·
      2 years ago

      There are some videos of this in this RT article https://www.rt.com/news/565156-china-former-leader-leaves-session/ It does say Jintao was against allowing the 3rd term. That or Xi had to press the - this old dude just shit himself button