Remember ladies: Even though the vast majority of white women are poor working class and in service jobs I saw the show Desperate Housewives once so I can confirm that you are actually a rich wine mom that somehow benefits from the system even though said system is a patriarchy that considers you less than human. Girl bosses exist so sexism isn't real anymore. You are not oppressed. I am very smart :very-intelligent:

EDIT: I am 100% directing this at misogynists and am fully aware that BIPOC do not benefit from being white in the same way white women do. I cannot speak on behalf of BIPOC and am venting about people using the existence of wine moms and Karens as an excuse to be sexist from my own experiences as someone who was born white, poor and AFAB. I acknowledge that I benefit from being white.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is this a response that is related to the "most people here are (presumed) white and male so they shouldn't mock white people" wrecker takes that sometimes comes through here?

    :debatebro-l: :lmayo: :debatebro-r:

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    i am a rich wine mom :shrug-outta-hecks: (rich as in diabetes from drinking too much wine)

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I agree somewhat

    The last 5 years of internet white males have agreed that it's okay to make fun of white women but not white men

    I can confirm that you are actually a rich wine mom that somehow benefits from the system even though said system is a patriarchy that considers you less than human

    this is completely false, they absolutely benefit from the system. Just less than white men

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      The last 5 years of internet white males have agreed that it’s okay to make fun of white women but not white men

      Women being depicted as angry, screeching, hysterical, crazy, dumb b*tches has been used by men for thousands of years to justify everything from beatings to lobotomies. It's not just the last 5 years

      this is completely false, they absolutely benefit from the system. Just less than white men

      This is true, and I apologise for my ignorance there.

  • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    somehow benefits from the system even though said system is a patriarchy

    It’s not just the patriarchy, though. That’s the thing. The system isn’t just “somehow” supposed to benefit white women. It’s designed it benefit all white people, regardless of gender or class.

    I agree with your message that sometimes people act misogynist towards women and try to hide it behind “white women”.

    But that criticism can only be made of white men. BIPOC people have numerous, numerous criticisms of white women and white feminism who have benefited from racial oppression, which is also in inherently tied to class btw. White women are richer than BIPOC people, on average. Whether you choose BIPOC people in the West or people in the Global South. How did that become a thing?

    You should edit your post to add a clarification about this point.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    From a cis white guy to other cis white guys: please be VERY cautious before calling out white women as Karens or "privileged white girls" or whatever. Ya those people do exist, but it can be really toxic and often wrong to throw these terms around as go to rebuttals for white women.

    existence of wine moms and Karens as an excuse to be sexist

    Yes I've seen this. I feel like it comes from chuds more, but who knows maybe I'm wrong and left guys do it too.