I think it's easy to joke about such a tragedy when you're so far removed from it. Yes yes, the U.S is a dumpster fire and has been doing much worse to other countries for decades. That doesn't negate, in any way, the fact that innocent people were killed on that day. I actually lost someone there. Some of you who know me may be surprised, as I'm not American. But, by an unfortunate turn of event, one of my relatives was there, right at the wrong place, wrong moment, when it happened. What the fuck was he doing in America then, I have no fucking clue. These people -those who died, they weren't CEOs or Wall Street predators or billionaires, or even soldiers or cops; they were office workers, secretaries, overworked people working hell shifts in cubicles. They were victims of the capitalist system, just like all of us here are. 9/11 was a fucking tragedy. Nothing less. I wish you had the guts to walk up to a person whose friends or family were killed when the first plane hit the tower and tell them "happy nine eleven lol". I would love to see their reaction. The worst part is, I myself have grown accustomed to these little jokes on the online left. To the point where I sometimes catch myself awkwardly grinning at some post mocking the attack. And I feel so fucking ashamed. I feel like every bit about 9/11 is an insult to the memory of my uncle. I miss him so fucking much. By an unfortunate turn of events, just like that, because the US had decided to mess around, he was gone. He, the best pilot in the middle east, didn't deserve to die like that.

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    Yeah man, the Chilean coup was a genuinely horrific event, I don't think we should joke about it. RIP Salvador Allende

  • fojazone [any]
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    when you come to america to become the world's first freestyle 767 pilot and totally beef it

  • _else [she/her,they/them]
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    okay but also they hit the pentagon. I think the only time that's ever been done, and you literally cannot make me feel bad about that literally ever.

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    Okay, long story short: I know how hard-left this sub is, and I'm pretty much to the left myself. I can't stand crooked law enforcement. I fiercely support Black Lives, and I think we need reform badly.

    But I happen to enjoy some movies/shows/games that have police characters.

    And I'm getting beyond fed up with seeing a certain movie (Zootopia) that impacted me so much get attacked from the left in this manner. Basically, I don't agree with how some in the hard left keep holding it up as "cop propaganda" or "fascist", which it isn't, and people accusing it of "getting racial allegories wrong" when in reality, the movie is an allegory for prejudice as a whole.

    Like, I don't find crap like this funny. I find it infuriating. Because it's not true. https://i.redd.it/0qy9v4on7gs31.jpg

    Some hard leftists accuse the film of missing the mark because the "predators" evolved from eating prey mammals to eating fish and bugs. That's not meant to symbolize anything in real life, it's just something that happened with those animals in a kids' movie. It doesn't clash with the movie's messaging at all. It's not "police apologism" because the police department is depicted as inept in many ways, and the story contains a moral against unfair profiling.

    Now for some reason, the "NP" link option isn't working, but I discussed this before in BreadTube and Complete Anarchy.

    I'm asking you how you feel about this because I once encountered a thread in this sub mocking Judy Hopps, doing the whole "ACAB" thing, and I was legit upset by it.

    If you think I'm some kind of idiot, weirdo or loser for getting so emotional about a movie aimed at kids that's part of a big corporation, that's your right. But people have been sharing "Judy's a pig, smash the state" memes in the Zootopia sub. And as someone who can't watch certain scenes in the movie without crying my eyes out, they really bothered me and I didn't think they were fair at all.

    Especially given how aggressively critical the movie is of law enforcement, and bigotry in general.

    Zootopia didn't deserve 9/11

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    I'm sorry about your uncle, truly. It's true that a lot of innocent people were killed. And yet.

    I lived through that time and watched this country turn this admittedly awful event into a blood cult that to this day justifies every cruelty we commit abroad and at home. Less than three thousand people died and now an uncountable number of people in the Middle East are dead. Less than three thousand people died, a number that is insignificant to the number of people killed by capitalism every year just in the US. US victimhood has allowed there to be zero reflection from the US at large on how our political and economic policy helped to bring about this tragedy or who it continues to harm. Ultimately, the public veneration of 9/11 as a sacred tragedy is more harmful than the actual act of terrorism was. This being the case, mockery and satire of this public cult is therefore both necessary and good.