• GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I didn't say anything is worse or better but the logical conclusion to draw after the Shah's secret police kill tens of thousands of primarily communists and subsequently there is an Islamic revolution is that there probably wasn't much of an organized Left remaining after they were tortured to death by the Shah

    • fifthedition [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Uh...the entire premise is that such an organized Left did exist, it was a positive force in the Revolution, and after they helped the Muslims gain power they were physically removed from Iranian society.

      After the revolution began moving forward, Tudeh supported Khomeini. Fedayeen split into a number of different groups. When they started to break up, most of their members went and supported the Tudeh line and thus supported Khomeini also. Those leftists supported the imams because they thought that was the anti-imperialist line.

      Khomeini didn’t use the word “anti-imperialism.” He talked about “Big Satan” and “Small Satan.” The Big Satan was the United States. The Small Satan was Europe. The leftists who went toward him translated that as anti-imperialism in their minds. In their minds.

      Chafiq emphasizes this last point, raising her eyebrows and speaking in English to ensure that I get it.

      My group was independent. We were not supporting Khomeini or his line or his discourse, but we were not clear on it, either.

      One thing that the whole Iranian left agreed upon was this anti-Western, anti-imperialist line. It was the most important thing.

      How was there a "whole Iranian left" if the Shah's men had wiped them out?

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        How was there a “whole Iranian left” if the Shah’s men had wiped them out?

        do you think "the left" would support Khomeini if they had 5x the numbers due to not being tortured to death by the Shah