According to a comment on the :reddit-logo: post I stole the image from, it has been verified that it's actually in the vanilla game

  • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
    ·
    2 years ago

    I've only done the first bit of the tutorial so far, but as far as I understand it, there's a specific category of people in the game who can, among other things, be leaders of "interest groups". Being a historical game, it has major historical figures alongside generic ones, but for the sake of variety in the gameplay, they don't always show up in the same country that they historically did, unless that wouldn't make sense at all. Kind of like the Great Scientists, etc., from Civilization V. So Marx might pop up in Estonia if the conditions are right, but Queen Victoria will always appear as a leader from Great Britain

      • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
        ·
        2 years ago

        Yeah it's definitely an improvement. I think @alcoholicorn is right, where it's tied to reaching something in the tech tree first. I could also see the new quest system, or whatever it's called, being part of it

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
          ·
          2 years ago

          Womans suffrage?

          Karla Marx

          Are you in Texas?

          Charlie Marx

          spoiler

          marx_events.1 = { type = country_event

          title = marx_events.1.t
desc = marx_events.1.d
flavor = marx_events.1.f

event_image = {
	video = "gfx/event_pictures/europenorthamerica_russian_serfs.bk2"
}

on_created_soundeffect = "event:/SFX/UI/Alerts/event_appear"
on_opened_soundeffect = "event:/SFX/Events/europenorthamerica/russian_serfs"

icon = "gfx/interface/icons/event_icons/event_newspaper.dds"

duration = 3

trigger = {
	has_technology_researched = socialism
	NOT = { has_global_variable = marx_happened }
}

immediate = {
	set_global_variable = {
		name = marx_happened
	}
}

option = { #support socialism not marx
	name = marx_events.1.a
	default_option = yes
	ig:ig_trade_unions = {
		add_modifier = {
			name = modifier_supported_marx
			months = normal_modifier_time
		}
	}
}

option = { #promote him / marxista porque me va la marxa
	name = marx_events.1.b
	ig:ig_trade_unions = {
		add_modifier = {
			name = modifier_promoted_marx
			months = normal_modifier_time
		}
	}
	random_list = {
		95 = {
			trigger = {
				country_is_in_europe = no
			}
			create_character = {
				#role = politician # Remove this line
				ig_leader = yes
				interest_group = ig_trade_unions
				female = no
				ideology = ideology_communist
				traits = {
					direct
					persistent
				}
			}
		}
		95 = {
			trigger = {
				country_is_in_europe = yes
			}
			create_character = {
				first_name = Karl_Heinrich
				last_name = Marx
				#role = politician # Remove this line
				ig_leader = yes
				interest_group = ig_trade_unions
				female = no
				dna = dna_karl_marx
				ideology = ideology_communist
				religion = rel:jewish
				traits = {
					direct
					persistent
				}
			}
		}
		5 = {
			modifier = {
				if = {
					limit = {
						OR = {
							ruler = {
								has_ideology = ideology_feminist
							}
							ig:ig_trade_unions = {
								leader = {
									OR = {
										has_ideology = ideology_feminist
										is_female = yes
									}
								}
							}
						}
					}
					add = 10
				}
				if = {
					limit = {
						has_law = law_type:law_women_in_the_workplace
					}
					add = 5
				}
				if = {
					limit = {
						has_law = law_type:law_womens_suffrage
					}
					add = 5
				}
			}
			create_character = { #Karla Marx
				#role = politician # Remove this line
				ig_leader = yes
				interest_group = ig_trade_unions
				female = yes
				ideology = ideology_communist
				traits = {
					direct
					persistent
				}
			}
		}
		5 = {
			trigger = {
				capital = { state_region = s:STATE_TEXAS }
			}
			create_character = {
				first_name = Charlie # howdy
				last_name = Marx
				ig_leader = yes
				interest_group = ig_trade_unions
				female = no
				dna = dna_karl_marx
				ideology = ideology_communist
				religion = rel:jewish
				traits = {
					direct
					persistent
				}
			}
		}
		1 = {
			trigger = {
				capital = { state_region = s:STATE_ESTONIA } 
			}
			create_character = {
				first_name = Kras
				last_name = Masov
				ig_leader = yes
				interest_group = ig_trade_unions
				female = no
				ideology = ideology_communist
				traits = {
					direct
					persistent
				}
			}
		}
	}
}

option = { #get rid of this man
	name = marx_events.1.c
	ig:ig_trade_unions = {
		add_modifier = {
			name = modifier_ditched_marx
			months = normal_modifier_time
		}
	}
}

          }

          • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
            ·
            2 years ago

            That's pretty cool, I like that system. Hopefully it helps the game feel less railroad-y than Vic2 did

            • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
              ·
              2 years ago

              It does, though it's a little too freeform right now, like my Mexico game just had America peacefully transition to a worker council democracy, without freeing the slaves and has colonized a quarter of Africa.

              Either that kind of behavior shouldn't be allowed, or a lot of flavor text to make it seem less insane should be added.

              • HornyOnMain
                ·
                2 years ago

                America peacefully transition to a worker council democracy, without freeing the slaves and has colonized a quarter of Africa.

                19th century Vaushites

              • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
                ·
                2 years ago

                Yeah that does seem like an oversight lol. I feel like I remember Vic2 having some of that hard-coded, where if you switch to a communist government type, it automatically locks slavery to "outlawed", for example, or at the very least sets it to that if it wasn't already. I might be wrong about that though. Something like that would be nice as a minimum, in either case

              • keepcarrot [she/her]
                ·
                2 years ago

                I was a little disappointed as to how uneventful my switch to workers councils was. The Whigs and Tories didn't even oppose it. Also as the zeitgeist I could just arbitrarily bolster trade unions

              • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
                ·
                2 years ago

                Maybe it's just me. :shrug-outta-hecks: I always felt like I couldn't do much other than map painting, and when I tried to do anything interesting it took hours for anything to happen at all. It is also my least played Paradox game, at 103 hours, so might have just never learned how to play it to it's potential

            • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
              ·
              2 years ago

              You joke, but I have seen a (blessed) Spanish translation of the Communist Manifesto with the authors listed as Carlos Marx and Federico Engels

      • Ziege_Bock [any]
        ·
        2 years ago

        I saw a screencap about how Abraham Lincoln was discovered to be the Washington Ripper after losing too many elections. Someone in the comments said the same thing happened to him, but it was Andrew Jackson.