Churchill England spent the entire war operating as Germany's punching bag. The man was a complete disaster at every level of leadership, governance, and defense. Liberals holding him up as a war hero for the next 80 years really tells you everything you need to know about the kind of people who have been managing the decline of the West.
When the British Empire had more industrial capacity at its disposal at the start of the war than the USSR and US combined but still was beaten in production by both each.
In fairness, the amount of lend-lease given to the USSR, while not necessarily won the war for the Soviets definitely shortened it. Though, it also made the Western Front that much easier so...
Churchill honestly wasn't. I hate to admit it but he was pushing for Franco-Soviet relations for a while for example. Churchill liked Franco and Mussolini, but he hated Hitler, particularly because Hitler was German.
Yeah reading 1939 by Carrey has really gotten across that Churchill, evil though he was, did not trust Hitler one bit. He sought out officials from both sides to push for them to fulfill their planned staff talks and unfulfilled obligations of French arms to the USSR. As well as talking with Soviet ambassadors about Soviet accomplishments, he was apparently "thrilled" about the industrialization east of the Urals.
Appeasement was Chamberlain and Halifax, through and through
Lmao Churchill was sympathetic to Hitler until he started invading. They should switch Churchill and Stalins roles in this.
Also Stalin won the war. Cope harder, Nazis.
FDR and Churchill were like Pippen and Kukoc to the Stalin's Michael Jordan. And that's being generous to them.
that's a bit unfair to fdr, america was more important to the war effort than britain
The analogy works pretty well then because Pippen was more important than Kukoc.
Churchill England spent the entire war operating as Germany's punching bag. The man was a complete disaster at every level of leadership, governance, and defense. Liberals holding him up as a war hero for the next 80 years really tells you everything you need to know about the kind of people who have been managing the decline of the West.
When the British Empire had more industrial capacity at its disposal at the start of the war than the USSR and US combined but still was beaten in production by both each.
Just Churchill things.
In fairness, the amount of lend-lease given to the USSR, while not necessarily won the war for the Soviets definitely shortened it. Though, it also made the Western Front that much easier so...
Churchill honestly wasn't. I hate to admit it but he was pushing for Franco-Soviet relations for a while for example. Churchill liked Franco and Mussolini, but he hated Hitler, particularly because Hitler was German.
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Yeah reading 1939 by Carrey has really gotten across that Churchill, evil though he was, did not trust Hitler one bit. He sought out officials from both sides to push for them to fulfill their planned staff talks and unfulfilled obligations of French arms to the USSR. As well as talking with Soviet ambassadors about Soviet accomplishments, he was apparently "thrilled" about the industrialization east of the Urals.
Appeasement was Chamberlain and Halifax, through and through
that's the stupidest reason to hate him tho. especially since he was austrian.
It made him representative of both major European Central Powers, plus Churchill always hated Germans and Austrians to him are just south Germans