After much heartache and heavy cost, the brave warriors of the Union of Social Democratic Tribes of Oceania have bought their freedom from the Perfidious English, liberated their comrades in Polynesia and Australia, and created a land where everyone from Freed American slaves to Flemish Refugees to Chinese Socialists can join together. Soon the Parliament will be dissolved in favour of a Council Republic.

Two problems remain

  1. Taking most of Australia somewhat suddenly means that now I have tanked my economy and standard of living having to provide Public Healthcare and Education to a few million starving semi-literate anglos.

  2. The Fucking French! HAAATTTTTEE!

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
    hexagon
    ·
    2 years ago

    Certainly it's worded better, but realistically you are pushed heavily towards adopting western economic and political systems just to survive, though you do have some leeway in "how" you do it.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      2 years ago

      well was that not the main struggle of the era for most peoples and nations ? Try to adopt western technology like industrialization to defend themselves but at the cost of their own traditions and way of life. This was the century capitalism conquered the world, and there's a reason why most people who resisted in that moment lost :sadness:

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
        hexagon
        ·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, but because other cultures aren't fleshed out, it's hard to, for example, achieve the cultural synthesis Japan managed in the 19th century. You Will Develop Romanticism. You Will Use Western Monoculture Agricultural Practices

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      you are pushed heavily towards adopting western economic and political systems

      I mean, considering how Capitalism spread by forcing people to adopt it and conquering those who didn't, this seems pretty spot on. Traditional tribal relations may be more egalitarian and good for the people living in them, but they don't exactly maximize rifle production.

    • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Ah, yeah, that's not the best. The fact that the a lot of the "unrecognized" nations are even on the map is progress in itself, but I feel like it shouldn't be that hard to just do it justice in one go, rather than taking baby steps towards it.

      Once I get a handle on the game I want to do an Indian Territory run, that seems like it would be fun, once you get going at least lol

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I have a sneaking suspicion that they're gonna flesh out the "unrecognized" nations, but it's gonna be like a "Native Lands" DLC.

        At least it has good modding support so we'll see overhauls that add better stuff for the colonized nations

        • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
          ·
          2 years ago

          Oh yeah I would honestly be surprised if they didn't do that at some point. I'm also looking forward to mods though, I bet we'll see some really good ones pop up before too long. If it goes the direction of HOI4, it might be a case where the game just serves as a bare-bones platform for mods that are much more fleshed out