• LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hilarious that less space for cars would make more money AND be safer and healthier, but we still won't do it.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Bit idea: One of those fake videos where a "north korean deserter experiences freedom for the first time" by soyfacing at a mcdonalds, but instead it's an american seeing an outdoor cafe in China for the first time and its played really inspirational and heartwarming

  • 7bicycles [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's amazing how pretty much everything but the car has to be profitable by itself and in a very, very narrow viewpoint at that.

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Why wait six months for an investment to pay off, when you can invest in something that pays off right now, and vanish just as the consumers find out that it's a grift?

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      On one hand, it feels ridiculous that anyone would drive into you.

      On the other hand, I can imagine some sweaty hog in an F-150 doing it because they feel like it makes some sort of point.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Yes, it was me. I released covid onto the world to create this outcome. Anything to bring street cafe culture to america

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    street cafés have been a boon in mexico city and i like them very much. neighbors from the hoity toity places obviously hate them with the passion of a thousand suns but so far they've been unsuccesful at removing them.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I thought this was done because restaurants faced restrictions on # of people indoors with various COVID restrictions?

    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yep! And they're called streateries. Spread the word, it's important that we are as insufferable as possible.

  • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    In my city, I think the city was charging quite a lot for their use (they called them “parklets”) but not 100 percent sure on that (I’m not contradicting this tweet and post)

    I’m conflicted on parking meters generally. On the one hand, “cars bad” BUT it seems the fees only really impact and price-out the poors and provide more spaces for richees to park so just turns the area into an exclusive zone and a place to further gauge people for expired meters.

    My city has rolled out meters EVERYWHERE (even at all the “public beach” areas) in recent months and years. And they are mostly those kiosk ones which half the time you don’t even see if you are down block and used to there being no meters.

    Fee and penalty based anything essentially means NO rules for the wealthy, and especially the uber-wealthy

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah I hate parking meters, just outlaw parking there ffs

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    people drive like fucking morons, i hate eating next to the road. exhaust and brake fumes, :chefs-kiss:

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Next step is to extend the seating into the traffic lane and narrow it down to bike-only use or narrow one-way traffic

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Still remember when friends took me to Buenos Aires' Costanera, in front of AEP airport to eat a sandwich at the famous carritos, right next to a constant flow of cars going at 80 km/h minimum.

      • "THIS FUCKING SUCKS"

      • "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

      • "HE SAYS HE DOESN'T LIKE HIS CHORIPÁN"

      • "NO, THE CARS"

      • "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Heh, yeah, that's what they usually do here too

  • Metalorg [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Sat in the gutter protected frim cars by plastic bollards doesn't seem appealing to me. I bet there's a huge car park behind the restaurant where they could make a patio.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      In the places these are often set up near me, no, there's no off-street parking.

      There have been incidents of vehicles running into the structures though, and I'm not a huge fan, even though I use them m to self on occasion.

  • sgtlion [any]
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    2 years ago

    I mean, 'customers spent'/'revenue' and 'profit made' are not the same thing. The running costs of a car park is the money machine and fixing potholes twice per decade. The running cost of a restaurant is staff, hygiene, certifications, stock, furniture, customer service, insurance, building maintenance, water, electricity, internet, licenses, thefts and damages, etc.

    In essence, while I agree fuck cars and car parks, I have little doubt the upkeep of a restaurant is at least 60x that of a car park. Honestly you'd still probably calculate it as economically sensible if you include the improved attractiveness of the place and subsequent greater business, but comparing like-for-like here isn't really sensible.