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Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


  • mkultrawide [any]
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    6 months ago

    Sy Hersh is claiming that the Pentagon went behind the White House's back and basically negotiated Iran's response with Russia acting as an intermediary. Seems pretty hard to believe. He also claims the attack did no real damage, which again, seems hard to believe given the media blackout and the videos we have all seen.

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    I’ve spent much of my career reporting on the American military’s misdeeds and worse, especially during the Vietnam War, but it’s time now to applaud the brilliance of the Pentagon planning staff and the operational officers who did what America assured Iran’s religious and military leadership it could do: allow Iran to respond to yet another Israeli assassination by flinging more than three hundred drones and missiles toward Israeli targets that as many as possible would be shot out of the sky before hitting ground there. It was a huge gamble, and it paid off.

    The Pentagon was essentially resisting—a word I choose to use—the foreign policy of the Biden White House and NATO by secretly approaching one of Iran’s closest allies—Russia—and persuading a senior general there to reassure Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran’s 84-year-old supreme leader, that America had the know-how to make the strategy succeed.

    Imagine it: two of the Biden administration’s most entrenched enemies—Russia and Iran—trusting and working with the Pentagon and its leadership to prevent a deadly retaliation for yet another Israeli assassination of an Iranian general and six other Iranians in Damascus.

    I am not allowed to name the American senior military officers and advisers who made the unusual faux missile attack happen. But it’s important to say that President Joe Biden, whose foreign policy team was not involved in the process, accepted the high-risk plan and publicly urged Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose political career and personal freedom depend on keeping the war in Gaza going, and the rest of the Israeli leadership not to respond to Iran. That they might launch a counterattack remains a possibility, of course, according to press reports in Israel.

    “The Pentagon planning staffs were asked to come up with a military solution to a political problem,” one involved official told me. “Otherwise the Ayatollah would attack and Bibi would do ‘his thing’ in response. We had to get involved now, and not later. And so we thought about where we are and where we wanted to be. And we got to be involved now, and not later. That meant we had to control the Iranian response.”

    The obvious fear was that Netanyahu’s response to a successful drone and missile attack would be, as in Gaza, overwhelming. A major Israeli retaliation could easily lead to an unwanted war in the Middle East.

    The senior planning staffs throughout the Pentagon had direct contacts with their peers throughout Europe, and there was immediate consultation with air force leaders in Europe that circumvented dealing with the political leadership there. “And who knew the Iranians the best?” the official asked rhetorically: “The Russians and the Brits.” Iran’s strongest ties in Europe are in fact with Britain and Russia, whose military leaders shared the concern about the extreme danger of an Iranian response to Israel.

    The senior planning staffs throughout the Pentagon had direct contacts with their peers throughout Europe, and there was immediate consultation with air force leaders in Europe that circumvented dealing with the political leadership there. “And who knew the Iranians the best?” the official asked rhetorically: “The Russians and the Brits.” Iran’s strongest ties in Europe are in fact with Britain and Russia, whose military leaders shared the concern about the extreme danger of an Iranian response to Israel.

    Out of these conversations evolved the ingenious plan: Why not get the air forces of our allies in Europe and the Middle East to agree to work together, under American leadership, and, with Iran’s approval, take advantage of the rapid progress in anti-missile and anti-drone defenses to let the Ayatollah fire off this missiles and have his revenge, while understanding the that air forces of America, Europe, and the Middle East would track and destroy them all?

    During the secret planning, the official said, America’s allies were told: “We are going to share all the information about the fired Iranian drones and missiles we collect.” There was a tough session with a senior Israeli official who was informed, the American official said, that Israel had two options: one,”win easy” and let the American coalition destroy the missiles; or two, “lose the hard way” and respond with violence to the failed attack. “If you chose the hard way,” the Israeli was told, “you’re on your own.”

    Throughout the process, Pentagon leaders were assembling their plan without formally consulting President Biden or anyone in the White House. “The White House only knew that the Iranians” wanted to respond in kind to the Israelis, the official said. At that early point in the military planning, he added, “the White House had no need to know more.”

    It was believed that there would never be formal approval for such a radical strategy, although Biden, to his credit, when later told that the Ayatollah had agreed to mute his revenge, publicly joined in urging the Israelis not to respond to the failed Iranian missile attack.

    The drones and missiles fired off by Iran were easy targets. An American fleet of Navy attack planes were augmented by fighters from Jordan, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, whose access to nearby air bases enabled them to get refueled and stay on the defense and in the air for hours. The Iranian leadership conveniently fired off its missiles and drones over a nine-hour period, adding to the success of the missile and drone hunters: the long interval gave some of the fighters a chance to refuel. Two American AWACs—specially equipped E-3 sentry planes—that had the most advanced warning and tracking systems were on station to help guide the missile-hunting aircraft to their targets. (The US Navy utilized its own versions of the AWACs: E-2 Hawkeyes). The American-led operation was a total success, with only a few weapons penetrating Israel’s borders. The only known casualty was a seven-year old Bedouin girl. She was struck and severely injured by shrapnel that fell through the roof of their home in the Negev desert, near Israel’s important Nevatim air base, where advanced aircraft are stationed that are capable of delivering nuclear weapons. It is thirty kilometers northwest of Dimona, the Israel nuclear reactor that has been churning out nuclear bombs for more than five decades.

    I was told by a knowledgeable Israeli that officials at the airfield were explicitly advised, presumably by Iran, that the missiles that fell near or at the airfield were not meant for the reactor at Dimona. The Israeli military officially released photographs of the damage to the grounds at the air base.

    The operation “had to have a zero scenario,” the American official told me, in terms of insuring that an Iranian ballistic missile did not escape the international armada and strike a major city in Israel. But, he added, “the guys who fly have a lot of faith and believe they can do anything with the AWACs. There was no margin of error.

    “It was gutsy.”

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Hersh really has been godawful on this conflict compared to Russia and I don't really know why. I remember one of his articles literally like a month or two after the offensive into Gaza started where he was just like "alright, so, now that Hamas has been completely defeated, now where does Israel go?" and here we are in mid-April 2024 and Hamas is still the unquestioned victor of the Battle of Gaza.

      Anybody remember the claims about how using bunker busters on the tunnels would work? Anybody remember the claims about how flooding the tunnels would work? I guess Hersh really just is a victim of his sources, so it's just garbage in, garbage out

        • Vncredleader
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          6 months ago

          Probably this. Just cause someone is used for limited hangouts doesn't mean they are always useful or their genuine sources don't have changing interests. This also feels more unfalsifiable than Nordstream, like the only real evidence would have to be transcripts of these conversations between a select few people.

      • mkultrawide [any]
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        6 months ago

        If I had to guess, the American sources that he uses for the Ukraine/Russia aren't the same ones he uses for Israel. I mean, I guess it's possible that the response was being secretly negotiated, given how long it took, but it still seems hard to believe.

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        3 months ago

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    • Awoo [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      more than 300 drones and missiles

      Nah. Stopped reading. Sy is wrong on this and he's swallowed the propaganda.

      They launched a few dozen drones and about 15 ballistic missiles, all of which hit their targets at the two bases while the drones provided a distraction and spectacle for the most part.

      Believing the 300 drones and missiles line is seriously questionable judgement, there was not enough evidence on the night for that many.

      • 420stalin69
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        6 months ago

        This shit is insane true or not.

        Either US officials cooperated in a missile attack on Israel, which is fucking insane.

        Or after a missile attack on Israel, the deep state are willing to give cover to Iran to protect it from an Israeli attack.

        Imagine having either of these on your bingo card.

      • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        Where are you getting that from? RWN claimed that most were intercepted by Jordan and the US before entering Israeli airspace. The remainder would've matched the numbers you're suggesting.

        • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          AFAIK most drones were not intercepted before reaching Israeli airspace, otherwise, y'know, the ballistic missiles wouldn't have had the cover to strike the airbases

          • ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]
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            6 months ago

            Is that all that you are basing that assumption on? The alternative is the saturation level for the Iron Dome is shockingly low and it required Jordan and the US to intercept most missiles en-route.

            • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
              hexagon
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              6 months ago

              there have been analyses by various commentators and cranks but ultimately it's all gonna be rumors and speculation. Israel couldn't tell the truth to keep their grandma alive, and Iran seems unwilling to release information about the strike so as to not give away too much

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