yup, struggle session time
edit: no one is right, everyone is wrong :^)
edit 2: this post is actually dedicated to Amy Goodman, please stop trying to sound cool grandma
yup, struggle session time
edit: no one is right, everyone is wrong :^)
edit 2: this post is actually dedicated to Amy Goodman, please stop trying to sound cool grandma
sure, tho again even in LatAm it's a very contested issue (mostly cus we live in very conservative societies). You're better off asking queer-nb latinx about this, tho seeing all the misinformation and stupidity, I might need to make a little thread detailing this better. I'll let ya know when it's ready.
Well my Latin friends/family are a mix of communists and religious conservatives so I should get a variety of opinions (one of them praised Cuba and Fidel in a video they sent me supportive of LGBT and non binary people's rights, the other person is an ultra conservative Christian). Thanks for the response
No problem, looking forward to hear the side of the communists (I already have enough from the religious and conservatives with my family hahaha)
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We still exist though. And as I said, I can understand having reservations about if we should use latinx-latin@-latine, but I refuse to reject inclusive language completely to not inconvenience socially conservative people.
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I really hope you start thinking outside of that reactionary garbage and care enough about women, queer and nb people, even if it's incovenient for you. Goodnight.
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1st off lbtqetc masks you off a bit, doesn't it?
2nd, I'm queer dude and fuck not helping women-queer-nb feel included. If you wanna have a convo about what's the best way to say latinx, feel free to discuss it w-respect with feminist/queer progressive groups, but you'll have to accept that inclusive language is not staining The Sacrosant Spanish Language first.
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Aaaand now you're mix-and-matching another complicated flame war of queer/LGBTTI+ with this. Only thing that matters now to remind everyone: This is not "crackers and rich kids", it's socially conservative and/or ignorant people trying to push the good 'ol "PROGRESSIVE POLITICS ARE BEING PUSHED DOWN OUR THROATS!!! MY PRONOUNS ARE BLAH AND BLEGH, GENDER IDENTITY ATTACK HELICOPTER", but since this is a leftist space, they're trying to sell it to you with this incredibly paper-thin narrative about "Whitey secretely manipulating feminists and progressive groups to do things against their good, latinx nature". Come on people, we're not aliens. We're people just like you, flawed and everything. There's no "right way to say" anything, it's all socially constructed.
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This constructions supersede yours because yours is a forced binary on people, who thankfully have started to move past forced binaries. Maybe you can peddle this crap on the right, but on the left, there's only so much "bourgeois" and "colonial" you can pepper about in your speech before people start picking up on your bullshit, just like we're struggling so it happens in here too.
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non-binary people, women, queer people, take your pick. fuck your grammar, language is a social construct. finally, you're once again confusing two debates (should we have inclusive language for people who don't want forced binary to represent them vs. should that way to address them be with latin, latin@, latine or latinx) to disregard both the alternatives AND the inclusivity. In the name of "real" inclusiveness which is... telling people that your forced binary language is good enough for them and they shouldn't change it because... "authenticity" and conspiracy theories or something.
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Yes and I need to remind everyone: We, latinx aren't inherently reactionary. We're made reactionary. And you should really check yourself if your idea of latinxness is being reactionary.
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