Maybe as an experiment, let's try to understand each other's positions ITT and not have the same boring old arguments (because they're boring).

Edit - nice discussion everyone, thanks <3. I'm seeing a lot of responses from ML and not many from anarchists, but maybe I'm the only anarchist on this site lol

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    i agree with this but there may be future conditions that make states different from what they are now.

    i used to identify more or less ancom and see anarchism in modern conditions as an attempt to speedrun communism which is absolutely admirable but like you said it can be easily crushed by state power.

    i do think there may be future conditions where state power could be circumvented completely. crazy sci/fi hypothetical stuff like being able to take control of a non-state apparatus such as a friendly artificial superintelligence or if decentralized manufacturing and power generation becomes viable or common. or more likely neoliberalism or whatever we are doing now continues to weaken state power to the point where anarchist solutions to anticapitalism become the most likely to arise. or fragmentation/weakening of global systems due to climate change or catastrophe causes state power to be so distorted that a bottom-up approach becomes the most efficient becaus there is simply no state to seize nor even be crafted from the ashes. some of these scenerios may imply a severe reduction in technology and living conditions where an ancom solution simply becomes a way to stave off a return to feudalism and provide starting point to rebuild into an unknown future.

    maybe i'm just a go-with-the-flow marxist at the moment but i do think it's good to have a full set of tools and that includes everything from strict ideologically principled marxist-leninism to anarcho-communism and every conceivable synthesis and adaptation in between or in the future.