Maybe as an experiment, let's try to understand each other's positions ITT and not have the same boring old arguments (because they're boring).
Edit - nice discussion everyone, thanks <3. I'm seeing a lot of responses from ML and not many from anarchists, but maybe I'm the only anarchist on this site lol
I think this is a really important point. Americans largely believe (not incorrectly) that the government doesn't do anything which is why we're so anti-government. At the same time progressive, socialist, and communist organizations are almost all trying to win concessions from the government. We could instead just start doing our own shit and when the state inevitably shuts it down suddenly all those people we were helping get fucked over and now have an actual political reason to hate the state instead of thinking the state just kind of exists on the periphery. We could be actually affecting the world around us rather than asking the state to do it on our behalf.