The horrors that were going on in Vietnam were public knowledge, and you had a lot of people who made the moral decision to refuse to fight in that imperialist conflict. For veterans since then, you don't even have the excuse that you were drafted. Being propagandized in this case may be a "reason," but it doesn't offer absolution.
The US's state-sanctioned warrior cult is a key cultural institution for maintaining imperialism by shifting victimhood from the actual victims of imperialism to the machinists of the war machine. It's a thought structure that should be undermined when possible.
We have people right here on hexbear who are ex-troops and were in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they are accepted here because they actually understand that what they did was wrong.
Some dipshit that was torching villages and murdering babies in Vietnam or Korea and still think they should be treated like heroes after having 50+ years to figure this shit out deserve no acceptance.
Counter point, people wearing "I was in Korea" gear are old enough now to know better.
Shit, a few years after getting out of Iraq and the Army, I had done enough reading to know that I was involved in a pretty serious war crime and I was still a great big lib back then. I didn't run around with a "OIF/OEF Veteran" hat on like I had done "good things" but there are others that still think that murdering people "over there" was justified for one reason or another. And little propaganda cartoons like this one white wash the crimes we tend to commit as troops while the people back home are told "we're advancing democracy over there."
Counterpoint, theyre fucking old propagandized idiots. One of the old idiots in my life is literally reading Dinesh DSouza right now.
Just because youre smart doesnt mean everyone else is though. I dont think youre better than all the people in your old units, you just found the right material at the right time and had the right experiences at the right times.
The asvab waiver 88M is likely never going to find his way to Marx and I think we should acknowledge that and be sympathetic to it.
Believing that people are a result of their material conditions and situations and not caricatures of good and evil is going to get me murked by hypothetical fascist.
Counter counter point: We're all propagandized idiots though. I wasn't smart for reading, I just fell through the cracks of all the things that should have driven me rightward into being either a centrist fash enabler or full on :frothingfash: fash.
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The horrors that were going on in Vietnam were public knowledge, and you had a lot of people who made the moral decision to refuse to fight in that imperialist conflict. For veterans since then, you don't even have the excuse that you were drafted. Being propagandized in this case may be a "reason," but it doesn't offer absolution.
The US's state-sanctioned warrior cult is a key cultural institution for maintaining imperialism by shifting victimhood from the actual victims of imperialism to the machinists of the war machine. It's a thought structure that should be undermined when possible.
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We have people right here on hexbear who are ex-troops and were in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they are accepted here because they actually understand that what they did was wrong.
Some dipshit that was torching villages and murdering babies in Vietnam or Korea and still think they should be treated like heroes after having 50+ years to figure this shit out deserve no acceptance.
Counter point, people wearing "I was in Korea" gear are old enough now to know better.
Shit, a few years after getting out of Iraq and the Army, I had done enough reading to know that I was involved in a pretty serious war crime and I was still a great big lib back then. I didn't run around with a "OIF/OEF Veteran" hat on like I had done "good things" but there are others that still think that murdering people "over there" was justified for one reason or another. And little propaganda cartoons like this one white wash the crimes we tend to commit as troops while the people back home are told "we're advancing democracy over there."
Counterpoint, theyre fucking old propagandized idiots. One of the old idiots in my life is literally reading Dinesh DSouza right now.
Just because youre smart doesnt mean everyone else is though. I dont think youre better than all the people in your old units, you just found the right material at the right time and had the right experiences at the right times.
The asvab waiver 88M is likely never going to find his way to Marx and I think we should acknowledge that and be sympathetic to it.
This thinking is how you quickly get murked by the fash
Believing that people are a result of their material conditions and situations and not caricatures of good and evil is going to get me murked by hypothetical fascist.
Counter counter point: We're all propagandized idiots though. I wasn't smart for reading, I just fell through the cracks of all the things that should have driven me rightward into being either a centrist fash enabler or full on :frothingfash: fash.
I'm not even yank so yes, you are deff right
No worries i love u all and dont take anything super personally i say here, we should be working together
Don't worry, I didn't