NO YANK HOG OF THAT AGE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING BESIDES GENOCIDE, YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT :monke-rage:
Democracy is when you:
- Murder people living abroad
- Show up once every two years to participate
I'll occasionally see guys like that, wearing a hat with Korean or Vietnam war veteran. You have to be a demonic sludge monster to be proud of fighting in those wars on the American side and yet they wear their veteran hats to get $5 off at Dairy Queen.
SIR. I flew a B-52 STRATOFORTRESS during Vietnam I DEMAND that 2% DISCOUNT.
When I was a senior in high school we had a Vietnam vet come to our history class. The dude was more deranged and genocidal than you'd expect. He straight up said, and this is an exact quote "We could have won if we put the South Vietnamese on a ship, completely leveled the North, and sank the ship." Literally calling for genocide and students in the class were like "Hmm... Yes... Hmmm... Good points from an expert." It still haunts me a decade later.
He straight up said, and this is an exact quote “We could have won if we put the South Vietnamese on a ship, completely leveled the North, and sank the ship.” Literally calling for genocide and students in the class were like “Hmm… Yes… Hmmm… Good points from an expert.” It still haunts me a decade later.
I mean my understanding is that that was more or less the plan, and it still didn't work. :cap-think:
Yeah, having a better understanding of those wars than when I was younger (especially Korea). I now completely understand why both my grandfather's who were in Korea never wanted to talk about it. Like they'd talk about the time at base and whatnot but really never much about what happened when they were in Korea. Especially my one grandfather who was in the Air Force.
My great-grandfather was an army psychiatrist during WW2 (Japanese theater) and Korea. I only knew him when I was a really small kid, but yeah he also never wanted to talk about it. He probably wasn't proud he went to Korea.
He'd talk about being a doctor and being overseas, but I never saw him wear a veteran's hat or an American flag pin or anything.
Yeah, that's pretty similar. I know the one basically told his family repeatedly that he didn't want to be buried with honors (I think that's what they call it) and actually adhered to the request. My other grandfather was buried with the whole ceremony but I don't think he really would have wanted it. A lot of my family are complete chuds so it pretty much was going to happen come hell or high water.
The Vietnam Veteran hat is the original participation trophy, cmv
You’re only allowed to thank a Vietnam vet for their service if they fragged an officer
Fragging an officer is when a grenade "accidentally" detonates in your officer's tent at night while everyone is sleeping
I also like the guys who slung their gun over their back and immediately surrendered.
i guess he could be in his 90s if the artist wasn't very good at drawing wrinkles? are there even any living ww2 vets anymore?
Very few. Both my grandfathers were WWII vets, and they've both been dead at least a decade now. My grandma built F-4s during the war, she's still alive and she will be 101 in March.
While the fight fought in WW2 was undeniably for a good cause I don't think it was to "defend American democracy". America got roped into war against Japan and then Hitler apparently unilaterally declared war on the US.
We got roped into a war with Japan because they wanted to colonize the nations we already colonized, so the empires butted up against each other. Nothing ideological or principled, nor having anything to do with democracy.
sure, but being kicked off by being attacked and being largely against nations more evil than :amerikkka: makes 'defending democracy' not a totally unreasonable claim
The overconfidence of Libs is unreal... like yeah, you technically won this time... but at what cost?
You intentionally elevated the most radical elements of the openly reactionary fascist base to convince voters that this is "the most important election of all time"™️
And even then, in most races your candidates won by razor-thin margins.
And you still lost the House, so good luck getting anything passed or raising debt ceiling.
It's not the disaster pundits we're forecasting, but situation is still far from good.
I fucked up this conversation in real life. I was talking to a vet ass boomer and he was talking about how it was a rough time. I asked him if it was because of all the crimes the government tricked him into doing. Turns out that wasn't what he ment at all
There was a time in a mall a vet's son came up to me, said I shouldn't be wearing a sickle and hammer on my bag because his dad died in Korea. I just laughed and kept walking because he was nuts. This guy followed me screaming "communist!" for like 5 minutes.
One time I was knocking doors for planned parenthood because they were paying $15/hr and I desperately needed work. It sucked and I got a lot of awful abuse, specifically being called baby killer with some frequency. One time a guy in a Vietnam Veteran hat called me that and before I knew what happened I had pointed at the hat and said, "Takes one to know one!" and he went literally beet red and I realized what I had said and literally ran away. I wish I could take credit for it but istg it just flowed through me and he and I reacted to it at the same time
You're incredibly powerful and the entire universe was created for that moment to happen
I honestly wish I could take credit but I was genuinely as surprised as he was lol Edit: :rat-salute:
Thank a veteran, they're the only reason you aren't speaking Laotian right now...
See how the characters are drawn with the proportions of a smol bean? This is because you'd have to be a baby brained liberal to express these sentiments.
I call this piece "Two people who did nothing of value patting each other on the back"
"I'm just gonna say it:
I'm glad that IED took a piece of your spine, because now women can run from you"
The horrors that were going on in Vietnam were public knowledge, and you had a lot of people who made the moral decision to refuse to fight in that imperialist conflict. For veterans since then, you don't even have the excuse that you were drafted. Being propagandized in this case may be a "reason," but it doesn't offer absolution.
The US's state-sanctioned warrior cult is a key cultural institution for maintaining imperialism by shifting victimhood from the actual victims of imperialism to the machinists of the war machine. It's a thought structure that should be undermined when possible.
We have people right here on hexbear who are ex-troops and were in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they are accepted here because they actually understand that what they did was wrong.
Some dipshit that was torching villages and murdering babies in Vietnam or Korea and still think they should be treated like heroes after having 50+ years to figure this shit out deserve no acceptance.
Counter point, people wearing "I was in Korea" gear are old enough now to know better.
Shit, a few years after getting out of Iraq and the Army, I had done enough reading to know that I was involved in a pretty serious war crime and I was still a great big lib back then. I didn't run around with a "OIF/OEF Veteran" hat on like I had done "good things" but there are others that still think that murdering people "over there" was justified for one reason or another. And little propaganda cartoons like this one white wash the crimes we tend to commit as troops while the people back home are told "we're advancing democracy over there."
Counterpoint, theyre fucking old propagandized idiots. One of the old idiots in my life is literally reading Dinesh DSouza right now.
Just because youre smart doesnt mean everyone else is though. I dont think youre better than all the people in your old units, you just found the right material at the right time and had the right experiences at the right times.
The asvab waiver 88M is likely never going to find his way to Marx and I think we should acknowledge that and be sympathetic to it.
Believing that people are a result of their material conditions and situations and not caricatures of good and evil is going to get me murked by hypothetical fascist.
Counter counter point: We're all propagandized idiots though. I wasn't smart for reading, I just fell through the cracks of all the things that should have driven me rightward into being either a centrist fash enabler or full on :frothingfash: fash.
No worries i love u all and dont take anything super personally i say here, we should be working together
