counterpoint boba, but people complaining about paper straws is one of the silliest things to result out of climate "action"

obviously if you are injured or medically need to use a straw ie you have parkinson's etc. you need a straw, but paper straws are not that bad and carrying around a metal straw is also not that bad if you dislike the paper straws / use straws often enough to justify a metal one

I guess I just reject the framing that it's a tangible sacrifice to stop using single use plastic stuff, which should have been common practice for years before it happened

  • edwardligma [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    of all the immense amounts of plastic waste generated by the average westerners consumption, straws make up such an infinitesimally small amount as to basically not even register, and if you didnt know how poisoned western discourse is (:libs-owned: ) youd wonder why its even a topic of discussion at all

    like theres a second france (but somehow even worse) worth of plastic waste floating in the pacific (and a similar one in the atlantic), what tiny percentage of that is made up of straws? and yet we never hear anything about how almost half of the immense amount of waste in these enormous marine garbage patches is made up of discarded fishing nets alone. seems like if people really wanted to reduce their contribution to plastics in the ocean theyd maybe start by not eating fish instead

    • wackywayneridesagain [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It's pretty unfathomable how much refuse is created by food packaging alone. Of course without packaging and barcodes, porky might lose a little more to shoplifting but seriously how was this allowed to happen?

      I wish we could just walk to the thing and pull a lever and get rice in the box :doomer:

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        My partner once brought home a potato, individually wrapped in saran wrap, from the super market. I wanted to cry at the absurdity of it all.

        It's a potato. It's already covered in dirt and has probably been slathered in literal shit not too long ago. What possible utility is there in wrapping it up, unwashed, in plastic? Is it going to get somehow more fucking dirty than it already is?

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Calmly explaining that potatoes come from the earth and you need to protect them from all the weird chemicals and ambient radiation common to the big cities. Then cocooning my potato in a thick layer of microplastics and leaving it in a hot car for a few hours.

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          some of the shrink wrapped potatoes are that way I think to make them microwave better but those aren't just like obviously shrink wrapped by a person it's more sealed and also idk I'm not a potato expert

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        every night I shrink wrap 5-6 containers of ingredients and 12-16 pizzas

        every night forever and the plastic never decays

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      straws make up such an infinitesimally small amount as to basically not even register,

      i go through like literally a hundred fucking gloves a day and I just make a da pizza

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    there should be a license you can buy to shoot at private planes

      • Owl [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        There's only so many private planes. A licensing system allows everyone to get a chance to hunt them, instead of just the first yahoo with enough money to buy a thousand stinger rounds.

    • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is the closest I could find:

      https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-c1-colorado-drones-20140116-dto-htmlstory.html

    • plinky [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Drone with a nut on a piece of a string is enough to disable private jet :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    People correctly recognize that their individual consumptive choices aren’t the cause of ecological disaster. Many governments used an elementary school students phone survey to establish the volume and severity of single use straws effect on the environment.

    People aren’t uncaring hogs for recognizing the new yogurt cup discourse intended to obscure the real source of pollution.

    Just because it’s easy to not use a disposable straw doesn’t mean it’s effective or that the public-private partnership to be rid of them has good intentions.

  • wackywayneridesagain [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    +1 for metal straw - make sure it's got a silicon tip tho so you don't fall and impale your fuckken head

    :porky-scared-flipped: :maduro-katana-1:

  • RION [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The only time I use a straw now is when it's given to me at a restaurant—I figure the server won't take it back for reuse even if I don't touch it so at that point smoke em if you got em right?

    If restaurants stopped giving them out my usage would drop like 98%, and I bet it's a similar story for a lot of people

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I need a metal straw but with a novelty hammer and sickle shape

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    paper straws is one of the silliest things to result out of climate action

    Paper straws never were a climate action

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Using plastic bags so I don't destroy more trees to carry my groceries to the car. And then using paper straws so I don't use too much plastic.

      No, I will never use metal. No, I will never use fabrics. They're too inconvenient and I will never adequately explain why.

      • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Comrade it really sounds like you’re making up environmental policy to get mad at, and to be honest your sourness about it comes off kind of chuddy.

        Plastic over paper bags was never a choice made for environmental reasons paper was always better. Paper straws over plastic is also, objectively, better fit the environment. Metal straws are a thing and a lot of people use them, their use has significantly expanded since we started thinking about plastic waste. Fabric bags are encouraged, incentivized or required at every store I go to now.

        Honestly I’m not sure what you’re mad at here. Passing laws against businesses being able to mass produce cheap disposable plastics is good.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Plastic over paper bags was never a choice made for environmental reasons

          Right. But then "everything must be disposable" was absolutely a political choice mandated by my very own Texas state government.

          Honestly I’m not sure what you’re mad at here.

          My home state is comically reactionary and routinely makes political hay every time any city tries to do even the most milquetoast liberal reform.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Straw discourse was made up by the CIA to turn the populace against disabled people. I will not elaborate further.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    counterpoint boba

    I'm okay with boba dying completely just to watch boba libs scramble to find the next superficial Asian thing to hang their entire identities on.

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    The only good thing about plastic straws is the musical noise they make when they rub against the cup lid.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Sometimes I just want the whole movie theatre to know that I'm almost out of drink but still thirsty. What am I supposed to do? Only rattle around the ice in the empty cup?

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Took a look at their FAQ:

      Does your straws affect the taste of the drinks?

      Our straws are not intended to affect the taste of your drink!

      :data-laughing:

  • sammer510 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    They forgot to give me a straw at the drive thru today and believe it or not I was able to simply remove the lid and drink from the cup unhindered