Aaaah. That all makes sense, thank you! I’m also a lay history nerd only and have mostly only heard the “Doing agriculture early on mostly sucked compared to the alternative” thing people say a lot
think there was a sweet spot? like around Çatalhöyük's peak? the agricultural activity was less monoculture, maybe a mixture of farming and gathering. seems less hierarchical. i guess the next "sweet spot" wouldn't exist until palace economies which were basically just early centrally planned socialist systems.
I like to think, just total speculation here, but I think early agriculturalists probably did a fair bit of "hunting" but it was more like "killing the animals eating the crops"
And don’t forget just how many more animals there were. Even as recent that we have written records, the amount of animals there used to be just around everywhere is honestly unfathomable to me. And that was after the first 200,000 years of humans murdering every creature they could find wherever they went.
Would make sense what with most none bird animals people eat are plain grazers. Makes sense that A)it's the guys you used to hunt cause they're the easiest and B) if that herd shows up and chomps your crops those crops kinda double as bait to bring the meat to you. I dunno
I work in agriculture and half the job near harvest time is just scaring off birds and shit to keep them from eating (and shitting) all over the harvest. I like to think earlier humans would have thought similar but also "hey free food" if a sling or arrow could bring one down
It's mostly chuds who say that. They don't like offices and mobile phones and just want to live in some idealized Bronze Age where they would get Stacy and be allowed to kill anyone who makes fun of them for being a virgin.
Aaaah. That all makes sense, thank you! I’m also a lay history nerd only and have mostly only heard the “Doing agriculture early on mostly sucked compared to the alternative” thing people say a lot
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think there was a sweet spot? like around Çatalhöyük's peak? the agricultural activity was less monoculture, maybe a mixture of farming and gathering. seems less hierarchical. i guess the next "sweet spot" wouldn't exist until palace economies which were basically just early centrally planned socialist systems.
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:data-laughing: got to be a tankie civilization for every era now
I like to think, just total speculation here, but I think early agriculturalists probably did a fair bit of "hunting" but it was more like "killing the animals eating the crops"
And don’t forget just how many more animals there were. Even as recent that we have written records, the amount of animals there used to be just around everywhere is honestly unfathomable to me. And that was after the first 200,000 years of humans murdering every creature they could find wherever they went.
True. It's wild to consider the biodiversity before we started chewing our way across the planet
Would make sense what with most none bird animals people eat are plain grazers. Makes sense that A)it's the guys you used to hunt cause they're the easiest and B) if that herd shows up and chomps your crops those crops kinda double as bait to bring the meat to you. I dunno
I work in agriculture and half the job near harvest time is just scaring off birds and shit to keep them from eating (and shitting) all over the harvest. I like to think earlier humans would have thought similar but also "hey free food" if a sling or arrow could bring one down
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It's mostly chuds who say that. They don't like offices and mobile phones and just want to live in some idealized Bronze Age where they would get Stacy and be allowed to kill anyone who makes fun of them for being a virgin.