white people trying to think of analogies that don't dehumanize people they've exploited for centuries: :biden-forgor:
Must feel bad, he worked real hard on this speech and his wife only gave him a B-
:michael-laugh: i forgot he did that
:jesus-christ: he did do that didn't he
How do you fumble this so hard- 'are you for the US or China? I am for the entire jungle'
This speech is stolen valor from the jungle gang. Fuck off back to the garden
Get fucked France.
Oh now they're saying they want to be on America's side? WTF? French foreign policy for decades has been "find out what the Americans are doing and take the other side." I know a lot of people like to rip Americans for being anti-French but there are solid reasons for it. French are just plain ungrateful assholes.
"The French couldn't hate us any more unless we helped 'em out in another war."
-- Will Rogers, 1932
“find out what the Americans are doing and take the other side.”
I feel personally attacked.
France hates that they never got a chance to be the dominant global power, it has instilled a petulant national character on what power they do wield. Which is why they do such fucked up shit to Haiti, Sierra Leone and many others.
Oh now they’re saying they want to be on America’s side?
I think he's triangulating between the US and China, because he doesn't want France to get crushed when the two come to blows.
I know a lot of people like to rip Americans for being anti-French but there are solid reasons for it. French are just plain ungrateful assholes.
Ungrateful? Sure. But not to the Americans.
My aunt married a Frenchman and so I've got some extended family over there. There is no anti-American culture in France. The whole America/France rivalry is entirely contrived. Its the same as the California/Texas rivalry or the Ohio/Michigan rivalry. Totally just a product of news media being messy bitches and politicians looking for a bone to pick.
The thing that urks Americans to no end about the French is that France doesn't consistently buckle under to whatever the US foreign policy happens to be. That's been true since De Gaulle at least. It flared up again during the Iraq War, when French capital (unlike the English) rejected the US entreaty to make war because they had too much invested in the Middle East. We're seeing it again, here, with Macron trying to calm the raging bull of American militarism in the face of a prospective prosperity boom lead by China.
But that politics has nothing to do with the general cultural exchanges between the US and France, which have been overwhelmingly friendly for literally centuries.
lmao, why is this yankee oorah bullshit upvoted?
show yourselves so i can bully you you fucking losers
https://mobile.twitter.com/westernunion2k/status/1471441924192014338
We need one single global order. A new one, in fact. A new order, for the world. Q weirdos are is gonna be so excited in the morning.
I mean, at some level, he's not wrong. You do want a single uniform system of trade and travel, one which promotes a peaceful coexistence between nations, particularly if you're a middling-sized heavily agricultural community living in between these two manufacturing titans.
No sane person living in the modern era wants to endure a third World War. Particularly if they think their country is going to play the role of Armageddon. But when your position within the global hierarchy is predicated on an old hegemony that's hollowed itself out with corruption, you're in an even more precarious spot. You need the new hegemony to effectively bail out the old one and guarantee a transition that keeps you in your current position. Even though the material conditions of the old and new hegemonys would foment conflict.
Then pile on climate change and mass migration and a real failure to maintain and upgrade existing international infrastructure, and you realize you're living in a giant fucking tinderbox. Begging people not to light a match is not unreasonable.
But all of this concern is predicated on you maintaining your own prosperity at the expense of your globally southern neighbors. What happens when you're forced into a conflict and the bottom finally does fall out of your economy? Where do you go from there?
I know where this guy is going, what with his talk of jungles and tigers and monkeys.
You do want a single uniform system of trade and travel, one which promotes a peaceful coexistence between nations
Right, and as you go on to say further down in your post, this is what american unipolar hegemony only pretends to be.
Begging people not to light a match is not unreasonable. But all of this concern is predicated on you maintaining your own prosperity at the expense of your globally southern neighbors.
Yes. When people get couped/sanctioned/embargoed/invaded/occupied if they try to nationalize their natural resources, or if their labor rights are too strong, or if they don't take out a high interest IMF loan with prerequisite demands of privatization, etc. you don't really have a "uniform" system of trade, you have a hierarchical system of trade where certain regions are made into vassals, kept deliberately underdeveloped and overexploited, yada yada. Those at the helm of the imperialist unipolar global system of trade are so afraid of "near peer" power that it is willing to do any amount of violence or false/exaggerated accusations of violence to maintain that system.
