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  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    yeah they really Klingonified them as the movies went on. started with predator 2 and the "you fought with honor here's a cool musket" ending scene.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        making them like the Klingons from star trek. warrior honor aliens like Lt. worf

        • cawsby [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Klingons were supposed to to be the USSR in STO right?

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            yeah they were modified from inscrutable racist caricature orientalist aliens to basically space vikings with some asian aesthetics. this transition occurred after their "berlin wall" so in universe it can be seen as a cultural shift or maybe a restoration of ye olde ways but then there's genetic engineering and some virus and it gets really convoluted.

            not sure how much Rodenberry, who was a Maoist, saw them originally as USSR allegory

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            2 years ago

            Do you mean the first star trek series, or am I forgetting some trek? Either way, they're kinda the soviet union but not in any meaningful way, just a powerful adversary with a different culture. They get more.themes of honor worked into their culture in Next generation onwards. Most of the groups are on a gradient of Soviet Union to nazis, sometimes more coherent, sometimes less

            • cawsby [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Sorry, I meant The Original Series (TOS) not Star Trek Online (STO).

              BTW, STO has some cool voice acting including some new stuff with Wil Wheaton. Including I believe the last voice acting by Nimoy in the tutorial for STO.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah the first Predator was a shithead and "Took his ball and went home" at the end. I did like the "You fought with honor" ending in 2. The Predator having a pistol that was hundreds of years old instantly expands the world of the setting in really interesting ways. How long have they been coming to Earth? How long have they been hunting us?