You’re clearly on board with some number of social murder.
Everybody is on board with some number of social murder. Otherwise you should also be for banning cigarettes, alcohol, cars, being fat etc. A lot of human activities and behaviors are potentially hazardous yet we indulge in them, I don't see how this is any different. People die from the flu too, why don't we have zero-flu policies?
Also it's not like I'm saying China should imitate the west, just that there is probably a more tolerable middle-ground.
You pretending that chinese people aren't gonna be pissed with policies like these in the long term is just plain idealism. There's literally a person from China in this thread saying they're fucking sick of it already.
Also looking at Cuba it doesn't look that bad, it seems they got through the worst of it like many other countries: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/cuba/
People die from the flu too, why don’t we have zero-flu policies?
Good question I’ve actually been asking that for years. During flu season we should 100,000% do screening tests for flu at peoples workplaces and schools and quarantine and isolate those who are sick. Also mandatory vaccines and masks in public places.
It would save thousands of lives yearly as well as save millions of dollars in “productivity” because people with the flu are bad at working, and also prevents cumulative years of human misery.
They lock down because they don't want millions to get sick at once, overflow the hospital and break the healthcare system. The flu doesn't overflow the hospital every year. Seem like there's still peoples still don't know the purpose of lock down. Just because yank load up body bags after body bags into truck and tell prisoners to dig grave, or Indian stand outside the hospital for oxygen and burn their body outside, doesn't mean China should go that route.
I love how people just keep strawmaning my position and thinking I want to let it rip throughout China as it did in the US even though I restatated again and again that the west isn't being strict enough. Covid policies aren't a single binary on-off switch Jesus fucking Christ.
Maybe we just have different ideas about how a ban on bing unhealthy would look like.
I’d like it to be helpful and free of cost or stigma, but certainly in the west it would be rounding everyone over a certain bmi up and depositing them in internment camps to perform manual labor until they meet whatever requirement.
Probably make the camps private, the product of that labor something that’s commodified and have a non-stop rolling reality tv show based in it.
The framing of “being fat” is bad because it doesn’t touch on why people are fat and only addresses their present state, but we can certainly look past that obvious part and assume in good faith the poster isn’t advocating institution of permanent krystal burger nacht with the gutstahpo beating you up and carting you off to fat camp brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
Otherwise you should also be for banning cigarettes, alcohol, cars, being fat etc
Despite the best efforts of those who make money off of them, all of these things are still significantly easier to avoid than the most infectious virus known to man.
Everybody is on board with some number of social murder. Otherwise you should also be for banning cigarettes, alcohol, cars, being fat etc. A lot of human activities and behaviors are potentially hazardous yet we indulge in them, I don't see how this is any different. People die from the flu too, why don't we have zero-flu policies?
Also it's not like I'm saying China should imitate the west, just that there is probably a more tolerable middle-ground.
You pretending that chinese people aren't gonna be pissed with policies like these in the long term is just plain idealism. There's literally a person from China in this thread saying they're fucking sick of it already.
Also looking at Cuba it doesn't look that bad, it seems they got through the worst of it like many other countries: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/cuba/
Good question I’ve actually been asking that for years. During flu season we should 100,000% do screening tests for flu at peoples workplaces and schools and quarantine and isolate those who are sick. Also mandatory vaccines and masks in public places.
It would save thousands of lives yearly as well as save millions of dollars in “productivity” because people with the flu are bad at working, and also prevents cumulative years of human misery.
Sure I agree. I just don't think weeks long flu lockdowns forever would be a good idea.
Sure, but I’d much rather be told I have to quarantine for a week for flu exposure than be out for a week for having the fucking flu
And I’d much rather the guy who came into work next door with the flu gets told to quarantine for a week than me getting the flu from the cashier.
They lock down because they don't want millions to get sick at once, overflow the hospital and break the healthcare system. The flu doesn't overflow the hospital every year. Seem like there's still peoples still don't know the purpose of lock down. Just because yank load up body bags after body bags into truck and tell prisoners to dig grave, or Indian stand outside the hospital for oxygen and burn their body outside, doesn't mean China should go that route.
Dude, I'm done. Go :LIB: at someone else, please.
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I love how people just keep strawmaning my position and thinking I want to let it rip throughout China as it did in the US even though I restatated again and again that the west isn't being strict enough. Covid policies aren't a single binary on-off switch Jesus fucking Christ.
I guess Cuba and Vietnam are liberal too, huh?
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Holy fuck, no
That person is 100% right.
Framing the idea that letting people eat without top down nutritionist enforcement is social murder? Jesus I hope that's a minority opinion.
Maybe we just have different ideas about how a ban on bing unhealthy would look like.
I’d like it to be helpful and free of cost or stigma, but certainly in the west it would be rounding everyone over a certain bmi up and depositing them in internment camps to perform manual labor until they meet whatever requirement.
Probably make the camps private, the product of that labor something that’s commodified and have a non-stop rolling reality tv show based in it.
The framing of “being fat” is bad because it doesn’t touch on why people are fat and only addresses their present state, but we can certainly look past that obvious part and assume in good faith the poster isn’t advocating institution of permanent krystal burger nacht with the gutstahpo beating you up and carting you off to fat camp brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
Despite the best efforts of those who make money off of them, all of these things are still significantly easier to avoid than the most infectious virus known to man.