What's wrong with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Imperialism

Domestic issues

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Really? Because a lot of people voted for them, otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten elected. Maybe nobody on this site was convinced of that

    well this site is who you were talking to when you asked. remember your own question? you asked the following:

    Why does this site care so much about AOC?

    I can't answer for anyone else.


    I think it’s worth remembering that 99% of politicians who get elected in the US don’t even make a pretense of being socialists.

    Right. And when those politicians betray the working class, it's business as usual. When some "socialist" politician betrays the working class (or supports bombing Yugoslavia like Bernie Sanders did in the 90s), it is under the banner of socialism, and the right gets to point to AOC and say "see, the socialists don't actually care about you!" AOC carrying around the label "socialist" and then being a basic bourgeois reformist ends up funcitoning as a propaganda victory for the right.

    . It seems to me that we should devote our time to addressing the bigger problem, and the bigger group. If we replaced every succdem with a committed M-L, it still wouldn’t have much of an effect. Succdems wield so little power that it doesn’t seem worthwhile to care about them.

    we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      2 years ago

      well this site is who you were talking to when you asked

      Then they need to get over it. Like, sorry the succdem let you down, learn from it and move on. I don't really care that your ex let you down.

      When some “socialist” politician betrays the working class (or supports bombing Yugoslavia like Bernie Sanders did in the 90s), it is under the banner of socialism, and the right gets to point to AOC and say “see, the socialists don’t actually care about you!”

      I've never heard a chud bring up Yugoslavia. Generally the bigger propaganda thrust is like, "Gommunism no food 11 gozillion dead," or whatever. Imo, just being like, "Who's AOC?" and pointing out the right's disproportionate obsession with her is an adequate response.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Then they need to get over it. Like, sorry the succdem let you down, learn from it and move on. I don’t really care that your ex let you down.

        you need to get over it. sorry hexbear let you down, learn from it move on, I don't really care that the website annoyed you by talking about your ex

        (see how empty that is?)

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Lol. Hexbear is obsessing over a tiny, insignificant faction in US politics because of, according to you, feeling betrayed by a succdem. I'm arguing that we shouldn't give so much weight to that faction because it's not strategically important. These aren't equivalent.

          • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I've already explained that nobody is "obsessed." Simply saying that the one faction in US politics that claims to be socialist and actually has elected seats in the house is behaving bourgeois and running the name of socialism through the mud. If you aren't willing to engage with that then I don't know what to tell you. Have a nice evening. I won't be wasting any more of my time arguing with you about this. We are perfectly capable of criticizing people other than AOC and usually do! It's just that she's done something very anti-labor over the past 24 hours so it's in the news.

            PS: Pretending people are "obsessed" with AOC when people are rightly criticizing her for doing something anti-labor while pretending to be socialist in the last 24 hours is pretty absurd btw. Yes. The succdem disappointed us. Yes we're going to talk about it. Complaining about people "talking about AOC too much" is still talking about AOC, so welcome aboard.