One day you will wake up behind the eyes of a human being that does not have to go to work for some asshole profiteer.
Maybe they'll be enjoying a post-scarcity utopia where bigotry, disease and old age are all things of the past, maybe they'll be hunting deer and avoiding the last functioning police killbots in the ruins of DC. Either way this shit will be over, no longer even a memory.
I hope you have a good Wednesday. :meow-hug:
Nuh-uh capitalism is eternal because muh infinite growth :melon-musk:
Capitalism is literally human nature prehistoric people were constantly talking about their grindset :shapiro-poplar:
I doubt even that will be the end. That we're here at all, I think, is evidence that even nothingness is temporary.
iirc quantum flux theory of the big bang sort of agrees.
Not even sure that's what it's called and I don't have a strong grasp of the science though lol
It's comforting to think the world will end because the transition period between two epochs tends to be... VERY ROUGH.
"Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes." Manifesto
Only difference now is that the proletariate can only liberate itself by univesalizing the proletariate condition and transcending class struggle entirely thereby - which means it must also be a global struggle. So this final titanic revolution must either be socialism or barbarism, nothing in between.
I'm skeptical of the idea that there will ever be a single, globe-straddling revolutionary period. That strikes me as just a secular reimagining of the Abrahamic notion of history as a moral drama, one that begins with the fall from grace and ends with ultimate salvation.
There will be starts and stops, victories and losses, whole generations born and died while capitalism decays and socialist upheavels alternately take root and flounder in different spaces. Eventually our descendants may live in a mostly-communist world, but even then I expect there to be capitalist holdovers much like there are still fuedal monarchies today.
Well considering how volatile capitalism is and how connected the neoliberal economy is globally, is it not possible that capitalism could he reduced to a non viable state fairly quickly (as in maybe 3 or 4 decades) via cascading supply chain failures and as a result, collapsing military power?
I guess anything is possible, but capital has proven relentlessly adaptable in the past. Unless the US itself collapses on the federal level, then all bets are off.
I'm sleep deprived, could I have that second paragraph translated into Caveman or something
Workers can only win by making everyone a worker, this is unlike all previous revolutions and class struggle and makes workers unique in history.
Following from this, that all class struggle leads to a revolutionary reconstitution of society or the common ruin of the contending classes, and that workers can only succeed by making everyone a worker - the socialist struggle has to lead to world communism or climate change apocalypse. At least, that's what I took from those. @Bluegrass_Buddhist had a different take if you're interested as well.
Thank you. I’m not certain how one would make everyone have skin in the game when we’re working within a system which encourages a lack of consequences, or at least the ability to pass the buck an unlimited number of times. I suppose we’ll have to figure that out.
"We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. "
Ursula K. Le Guin
I’m going to be the asshole pedant here and point out we still have that. The names just modernized.
Bless you @Bluegrass_Buddhist. You truly are the boy who predicted earthquakes.
Thanks for the positive vibes.
It also made me think of how there are lots of people that live like this already: the rich and their children who are so rich that they never have to work. (See the documentary: Born Rich, for example). Also tribal societies that still exist. Also self-sufficient hunters/farmers/etc. so some of us get to live pretty good lives at least, and that makes me happy to think about.
Someday it will be true for all of us.
One day you will wake up behind the eyes of a human being that does not have to go to work for some asshole profiteer.
Maybe if I can get on disability for mental illness soon.
I don't think I'll live to see the end of capitalism, even if it's collapsing as we speak. I probably won't even live to see unconditional Universal Basic Income :yes-honey-left:
I don't think any of us as individuals will live to see the end of capitalism. I just meant that the phenomenon of experience is universal and that there will be people in the future who think of themselves as themselves as much as you think of yourself as you.
