• make it illegal to ask for money within 15 feet of a public bathroom or public transportation, within 20 feet of a parking lot, parking garage, parking meter or the entrance of a commercially-zoned property.

  • Under the proposed ordinance, people would not be allowed to ask for money from drivers, people waiting in line or in an outdoor dining areas.

  • It would also be illegal to ask for money while ‘accosting’ someone, while touching that person without their consent, while forcing company on someone, while using profane or abusive language, or while blocking someone from moving.

  • People could also not solicit money while under the influence of alcohol or the illegal use of a controlled substance.

  • Leaders have proposed a fine of up to $100 or probation for a first offense, and a fine of up to $500, time in jail or probation for subsequent offenses.

  • The second proposed ordinance would make it illegal to “sit, kneel, recline or lie down” in a public right of way area, like sidewalks, alleys or streets.

  • Leaders have proposed a fine of up to $100 or probation for a first offense, and a fine of up to $500, time in jail or probation for subsequent offenses.

“If this was about criminalizing homelessness, I would not be standing here,” Dennis Van Kampen, the president and CEO of Mel Trotter Ministries, said in the release. “It is neither compassionate nor safe to make it easy for people living on the streets. We need to take common sense steps toward the best solutions possible and address the issues of mental health and affordable housing.”

I just can't ... this coming from the head of a head of a Christian homeless shelter. :jesus-christ:

Some commissioners also expressed concerns about the proposal, including First Ward Commissioner Kurt Reppart.

“We have six ordinances on the books that are not currently being enforced. Why would we add another one?” Reppart said. “If people are tired of cleaning up poop and pee, I wish that they would come and just say, ‘Would you please build more bathrooms downtown?'”

:yea:

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    • scarletdevil [she/her]
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      That fine isn't meant to be paid, it's meant to imprison the individual when they can't pay it. More free prison slave labor!

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  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    When you realize that cruelty is very much part of the point of capital and those that knowingly and unknowingly serve it, fuck any Christian that doesn't understand liberation gospel is the only true path for them and anything else should be labelled as self serving blasphemy

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    Bit idea, take some of the Elizabethan laws against "vagrants" and "rogues" Marx talks about (the ones where if you were a serf and a lord kicked you off the land, they could enslave you or just fucking kill you because you no longer had a home), make them sound more modern, and watch Americans just eat it up.

    This is actually a bad bit idea because Americans probably would latch on to adopting those laws.

  • berrytopylus [she/her,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    How do they even attempt to reconcile begging restrictions with the first amendment? Oh wait, that's right, they're targeting the poor they don't care.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    “If this was about criminalizing homelessness, I would not be standing here,” Dennis Van Kampen, the president and CEO of

    There's no hate like Christian love. Join your christ on a cross you fucking hog.