Hi all,

Path of Exile's new League, The Forbidden Sanctum, launches today at 2 PM Eastern time, so I thought it'd be good to have a thread about it. Who else is leaguestarting today/this weekend? Does anyone want to team up for playing through the acts?

For those who missed it: Hexbear has its own Path of Exile guild, named Path of Hexile (guild page is here, though non-members won't be able to see anything there). Anyone who would like to join is welcome, please either DM me here or message @Atrociraptor in-game to do so.

Also, for anyone who is leaguestarting: what build do you plan to run?

I'm going to do hit EA Raider again, since it was so easy to level last league, then stop in the mid-60s (just before killing Kitava) to do some endless Heist for a while, and try to trade my way up to early riches.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I can't guarantee I'll be around too much in the near-term because I'm also elbows deep in the Elder Kings II mod for CKIII and will be moving at the start of the year; but I'd love to join the guild and at some point jump back into PoE.

    Also does anyone have any fun Witch builds? last meta I kept up with was uhhhhh like 3 years ago.

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
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      2 years ago

      I enjoyed this build a lot.

      The premise is you're a minion build but once you get the Maw of Mischief helmet you get a unique skill that causes your minions to explode which becomes your main source of damage. The only issue is you play Wintertide Brand until you get the helmet. It's quite expensive the first few days, I think I paid 75c for it on day 2 but day 5 it was 1c.

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        This looks great, thank you.

        It looks like it plays/levels very similarly to a "Murder of Crows" build I used last time I kept up with the game.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      I think I'm gonna make RF later in the league for playing PoE via my phone (or just in general with a controller). Definitely a backburner plan though

  • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I was planning on joining the guild, but I keep getting fps death. Gonna have to sit this one out until they fix their engine.

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Have you tried switching between Vulkan and DX12? Sometimes one of them works much worse than the other depending on your system.

      • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I tried all the tricks. Clearing the cache worked for awhile until it didn't. My computer can run dishonored 2 on high, so it's something with the game.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah I get that. Mine sometimes drops to 30 frames in certain areas, seemingly at random. Seems like the engine changes they've made on the way to PoE2 have had some performance consequences that weren't ironed out.

          • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I'll probably try 2 when it comes out, but for now I am literally unable to play in a lot of the maps. Supposedly this has been a known issue for a few years now.

  • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
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    2 years ago

    pleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegood

    I'm going Sab Poison Seismic Trap because I haven't played it yet. Also because I'm still highly skeptical after everything that happened last league, and if its bad again I want to get in-and-out as quickly as possible.

    Also, is it possible to be in more than one guild? I'm in one with a bunch of IRL friends and I don't want to leave them.

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I'm afraid you can only be in one guild at a time, unfortunately. Feel free to message me if you want to party up for leaguestart, though! (It's just me for the moment, however)

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Those are both solid choices. I struggled to beat Sirus for a long time, what helped me beat him for the first time was stacking spell block. In general if you want to do well against the big bosses, the best way is to drop all your defences against attacks (evasion, block) and focus on spell suppression, maximum resistances, and damage. None of them have attacks, and usually they don't have physical damage.

      E: Also bring the right flasks for the fight. Sapphire flask for Maven makes a big difference for example, 20% less damage that scales with flask effect makes a really big difference. If your build uses a unique flask with low uptime it's usually a no-brainer to swap it for a defensive flask with high uptime.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm starting Poisonous Conction Pathfinder. Did a practice run yesterday, got to act 8 with 4:40 played so I think this should be pretty smooth. I really am looking forward to this league mechanic, the account bound rewards they've shown so far look really good, and since they're account bound hopefully they aren't hard to grind for. All in all, looking like a banger league if all goes well.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      I was going to do this again this league, last league I did PF Conc and cleared in about 4-5 hours and slowly transitioned into full time heist after that. Just had someone send me a pob for self chill raider into full time heist and I think thats where I'm going this league.

      Don't think I can play all weekend though so I'm not gonna stress about clearing fast (can't really abuse early economy if you're going to be busy). I think this league I want to start bossing for vouches on tft and learn how to do Lab running properly. Maybe more crafting for profit. I'm moving into my final PoE player phase 😈

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm planning on bossing myself, but I really can't bring myself to do boss carries. If this build truly makes bosses a breeze then maybe, but I'm far too nervous about bricking someone's fight haha.

        • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah I mean I won't be offering the service unless I have a build that just obliterates bosses. The main point will be to gain TFT rep so I can then move to doing Lab running service. I think I'm just going to try to run this league trying to find out the utter best ways to make divs/hr that I maybe still enjoy so I can blast through future leagues more efficiently. Definitely going to need to spend more time profit crafting

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Alright, I get it. I've always struggled to find good currency strategies really, mostly because I find it hard to do repetitive things in PoE since there's always the temptation to switch to something else. Best I've done is grinding logbooks, which I think might be like a ~2-3 div per hour strategy? Not sure.

            • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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              2 years ago

              I think logbooks can be better but it is very dependant on your build (speed/how many negative remnant effects your build can mitigate). I think the reason why I end up liking heist is just because the div/hr is high and it leaves me with a lot of room to explore crafting stuff. After like a week of heisting though I have to make a normal character so I can do something besides open doors though, no matter the div rate its gonna get old

              • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I've run logbooks with RF trickster, ice trap sabo, and explosive trap sabo. All builds that can deal with almost any remnant mod. It's always pretty consistent money, I find it a lot more fun than heist honestly. I tried heisting last league since I was finding it hard to get enough money to bulk buy logbooks just from mapping. It really is exhausting opening so many doors :shrek-pixel-despair:

                • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                  2 years ago

                  I did Logbooks during expedition league as a Ice Spear CoC Inquisitor and could run them very fast, it was actually very enjoyable (most of the stuff you get is very easy to sell in bulk which is great). But yeah, heist is just chugging. Its a lot better when you have a character that runs at 800% movespeed or more and you are clearing 6-8divs+ an hour

          • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            Yeah profit-crafting is of interest to me as well. I ended up with about 300 divines last league but I always end up struggling to go any further.

            • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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              2 years ago

              Dunno if you've seen this but this guy runs a little blog where he details some really good profit crafting/hideout warrior stuff: https://thehideouthandbook.com/

              Edit: He made a recent post on the profitability of doing a ton of flask crafting and I can vouch its very VERY easy divs, especially early league. If you use regex to highlight good hits and smash a ton of flasks at once you can make a stupid amount of free cash early on. I'd actually suggest anyone here to take a look at that guide because it will really help with currency generation early on, especially if your build is somewhat scuffed.

              • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
                hexagon
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                2 years ago

                Nice, thanks for the link, will check that out!

                I've always been quite fond of flask-crafting myself, actually. I've made some decent money on that, but mainly I like to have top-tier flasks.

                • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yeah he has some other ideas that are very very obviously profitable when you consider it. Honestly I'm glad hes not a youtuber because it would ruin everything hes talked about

      • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        I can give you a few tips on labrunning; that's my main focus. How much does labrunning service usually cost on TFT?

        • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          2 years ago

          Depends on the time of the league. I know most of the deal but I've just not built a min maxxed lab runner before. I've heard when you run lab service on TFT you can make 15-20div an hour or so if you know what you're doing, which is why I figured I'd look into it. The problem is that you need to have TFT rep, which is only gained from vouches and really the only decent way to get vouches now is from running a bosser service (or a 5-way service, actually... guess If I shoot for a headhunter again thats an option)

          • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            So when you say minmaxed, are we talking for regular uber lab or uber uber lab (the latter is rather a lot harder, especially if you're looking to push your movespeed up past 500 into the 700-850+ range)? And do you want a character that can do only lab, and nothing else? I can give you the basic build details for that. Personally I like a character that can do more than just lab, and isn't an ultra-fragile one-trick pony, so I don't run that build; I prefer to run a Raider with 400 to 500 movespeed that can run red maps and high-level Heists as well as it can run lab. It's a bit slower and can't do uber uber lab, but I've never used TFT and I still could've bought a Mageblood last league if I'd wanted to.

              • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
                hexagon
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                2 years ago

                Yeah so that build relies on a few key tenets: reverse chill; swapping, minimally, body armour, and possibly helmet and amulet as well, prior to doing Izaro; and then laying your traps and moving to the bottom corner of the arena so he doesn't aggro on you but just dies and leaves immediately. Can explain in more detail in-game.

                • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yeah we'll have time to talk about it. I'm not planning on getting into it right away, but its a league goal to do lab running for profit so I can get a sense of it.

                  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
                    hexagon
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                    2 years ago

                    Well I've been running lab for profit since Delve, but I've never used TFT, so I've apparently been leaving (a LOT of) money on the table all this time :P

                    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                      2 years ago

                      I would not feel bad for not using TFT. I knew how much dosh could be made selling harvest crafts and choose never to bother with TFT because it felt like a pain (which sucks because I could've built TFT rep that way). Its annoying that its this third party that you can optionally use for profit, but in terms of bulk selling or offering any other service theres really no replacement. I'm not sure what other way to build rep is, but honestly we COULD work on doing 5-ways as a duo if you want later on. The big purchase is a headhunter (I didn't even use mine last league) and a secondary as a aurabot/resetter. Its good cash too, just completely braindead work.

                      Dunno, I think I'm just kinda dreading working on TFT rep since I've avoided it as long as possible.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I started a summoner build I really liked in the last couple weeks of the previous league so I might try that for real this time. Just started play Medieval Dynasty yesterday though so not sure when I'll feel like jumping back into poe.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      2 years ago

      The nice thing about starting late is that at least the guild stash will have some stuff for doing a starter character again.