https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-and-customers-blame-self-checkout-shoplifting-rising-theft-2022-12

      • judgeholden
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        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I saw a video of some boomer pulling out a gun on a shoplifter in the parking lot. He was flagging everyone around him. He felt like a big man who saved the day afterwards though

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          god that video pissed me off so much. I almost wanna steal something from HD out of spite.

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  • UglySpaghettiHoe [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I use the self checkout to buy organic produce under the guise of non organically grown. I'm not even in an organic only diet, I just figure it's a great to eat a little healthier on some corporation's discount. I've never been caught but I figure if I were it would be so easy to just be like "oh sorry I didn't realize"

      • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The environmental impacts of organic farming methods are mixed. Organic uses substantially more land, but also uses fewer environmentally damaging fertilizers (definitely uses some though). Organic farms tend to use compost and green fertilizers as well as more traditional techniques like cover crops to make up for the relative inefficiency of forgoing chemical fertilizers. It's much more important to buy local in season crops than organic/regular

        • sexywheat [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          The biggest increase in GHG / environmental impact from food production overall is land use change, so the fact that organic farming takes up (way) more space means it's already lost in terms of environmental impact, particularly for climate change.

          As far as pesticides are concerned, organic pesticides (yes, they do use them) are much weaker than chemical ones, and they often end up having to use many times more volume (I've read up to 8x more) to get the same effect.

          You are correct about buying in season (and probably correct about the fertilisers IDK), but in terms of buying local, sometimes it's actually more environmentally friendly to purchase imported products if the country you are importing them from has a more efficient climate for growing said crop (even when taking into account shipping GHG emissions)

          Source

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Thank you this is pretty much everything I wanted to say and more organized than I was willing to put effort in for.

            I also want to add that many organic pesticides have more harmful environmental effects, not only because they have to use more (but that doesn’t help), copper sulfate being an obvious example.

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The problem with organic fertilizers is a lot of the synthetic fertilizer use is still happening, just upstream of the organic farm. At best they're using things like manure and food processing industry byproducts that otherwise don't have an outlet (but which are overwhelmingly derived from conventionally grown crops); at worst (and this is a non-trivial amount of organic fertilizer) they're applying conventionally grown and otherwise edible soybeans.

          • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Let's not forget that in the us steel slag and its derivatives are considered organic fertilizer. Theyre less popular with the decline of the steel industry. Also dried blood, sorry vegans.

            • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              State regulations have gotten better about heavy industry wastes due to all the soils getting contaminated with heavy metals, but yeah, a ton of organic produce is not technically vegan due to the high prevalence of slaughterhouse residues and fish emulsions in organic production.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah organic is a mixed bag. Sometimes it's pretty meaningless, but for certain foods often times the organic produce is higher quality as well. Tomatoes especially. Chicken too, but they're not gonna let you get away with that one.

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    Back in like 2013ish the first almost fully automated Walmart I'd ever seen opened up like across the street from my apartments.

    I'd buy staple foods and then just pretend to ring up stuff like steaks and fish. Walmarts response to everyone doing this wasn't to hire employees, but to calibrate the scales so sensitively that minor variations in legitimately purchased products would then set alarms off essentially crying wolf to the two or three employees on staff who grew so numb to the constant error messages that you could literally not ring up booze and they wouldn't notice.

    It was hilarious, if dystopic.

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Video detection of theft now is in 4th/5th? generation and is using AI and shit. In shitty states with no privacy laws it is the wild, wild west atm. Anything goes.

      Some systems can algorithmically search for theft on old footage and add your face to a in-house database that may or may not be shared with other companies/countries/CIA.

      Doesn't really matter though, the US jail system is huge but if every county and city took every petty theft to jail - just for one day - the whole system would break down. It is mostly theater to make shareholders and corp types happy. In the real world, theft has never been easier.

  • Username150951 [any]
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    2 years ago

    It's not theft, it's just mistakes because I'm not a trained cashier. Whoops!

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    2 years ago

    People paying themselves for their labor as cashiers and baggers is not theft

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Same thing happened in the supermarkets where I live. So they introduced cameras in the checkout stations :1984:

    • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Can't (realistically) catch you if you wear a mask and swipe only prepaid debit cards, also bought wearing a mask with cash :hahaha:

      Just don't have a license plate that can get processed by any cameras, I'll leave that one up to interpretation. (And be careful with Wal-Mart they've got some minimally intelligent anti-theft stuff built-in to their self-checkout that most retailers haven't done yet if you're used to other self-checkout systems)

      • LaughingLion [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        does the alcohol trick still work at walmart? like you scan you cheap goods first then bag expensive stuff right after you scan in some beer without scanning that stuff... then they put in their employee code to clear the beer and that clears the scale mismatch too and you are good to pay and walk

    • yoink [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      same, was checking out of KMart the other day and the machine tried to accuse me of stealing something because it thought I had just decided to not scan something and put it straight in my bag

      it popped up a picture/video of the incident immediately on the machine, accusatory as fuck

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Shout out to my local Walmart for having better security than the nearby banks

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    i've posted about it before.

    scan fast. scan sloppy. ear buds in. music loud. be mentally somewhere else. get your discount. hold your receipt as you walk out.

    if you are confronted just admit you fucked up. you can't hear the beeps. likely you won't be noticed. nobody reviews camera footage unless there is an incidient. shrink recorded during a monthly inventory doesn't require the use of hundreds of hours of labor costs to review thousands of hours of footage. (target may be the exception to this)

    if you are (likely) left alone and are worried know even on camera there isn't any visible intent it will be extremely hard to prove deliberate theft... so hard it will probably smash this entire self checkout thing in the end once the courts determine level of customer responsibility for training on self-checkout. nobody is going to touch that shit if you have to do a 15 minute training course with a disclaimer saying you are legally responsible for any and all mistakes.

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It also helps to be visibly not poor and a white Man.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        supposedly according to that leaked target security documentation that was passed around in the early 00s if you are with a romantic partner it's even better.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      As someone who used to do inventory for large chain stores, they are far more likely to assume someone got the inventory wrong at the DC or something was mishandled in shipping and just make the correction, than do anything else.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah i do inventories of multiple depts in large chain monthly and we never pull tapes i just have to eat the shrink. stealing is never spoken of it's all about making invoice claims for lost product from the DC and cheating if you have to because those assholes at the DC always come out +hundreds of thousands $ on their inventories.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The Acapulco crash that left her left leg shorter than her right, was to be the first of many for Walton. Five years later, while speeding in Fayetteville, Ark., she struck and killed Oleta Hardin, a 50-year-old cannery worker. She never received so much as a ticket.

    Walton managed to keep her fender clean for nearly a decade after the deadly collision but, in 1998, she got wasted and totaled an SUV in Springdale, Ark.

    "Do you know who I am?" She asked responding officers who charged her with a DWI. "Do you know my last name?" It was a rhetorical question.

    from https://www.mic.com/articles/79039/the-untold-story-of-alice-walton-s-dwi-incident

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Is this why police don’t give a shit about theft from wal-mart?

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Do you know who I am?"

      I know a lawyer who specializes in DWI/DUIs and you'd be surprised how often that is said word for word.

  • Mike_Penis [any]
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    2 years ago

    I remember reading about some dude stealing a ps4 by just putting something much cheaper that weighs the same amount on the scale. But they got caught when they tried to do it a second time.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I wonder why people don’t just apply to Walmart with their friends and play the long con and pull a heist with one guy working as the manager, one guy working at the electronics, one guy doing the stocking, etc.

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        What better way to get away clean than to have your photo ID and social security card on file with the people you're stealing from

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You say that as if most of the rural south's economy isn't entirely run like that. When I was a corpo scumbag assistant, almost every GM had some sort of scam running with his boys, it was just a matter of sussing out which one it was because they weren't super clever about it. Corporate only started to care if you started posting multiple quarter losses, because otherwise they still won on the exploitation end of things.

    • MelaniaTrump [undecided]
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      2 years ago

      they don’t even have asset protection at Walmart anymore they just don’t care now just walk out with the ps5 if u can get it out of electronics just tell the staff they forgot to cut the spider wrap lmao

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    The thefts keep happening because they put one overworked nerd in charge of six lanes at once, seven if they have to open the register at their little podium because the store is running on a skeleton crew again and the only other lane is being run by a poky senior citizen who can barely walk. The minute literally anything goes wrong the ONE nerd has to turn their back to everything else and walk the customer through fixing it while reassuring them that they're not going to be clapped in irons for accidentally scanning something twice, so everyone else just wanders away with their bags of chips.