I can’t understand it. Look at what Covid is doing right now. It’s fucking awful. Why couldn’t they just stay with Zero-COVID till everyone got vaccinated? Why haven’t they vaccinated everyone by now? It’s so frustrating. Who the fuck cares if someone assholes protested with blank paper? Just…why?

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    1. It's strangling their rate of economic growth on top of their last decade-long boom seemingly ending.

    2. Their people are fed up with lockdown measures and have started protesting them publicly. After three unrelenting years that takes a heavy psychological toll.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      It’s strangling their rate of economic growth on top of their last decade-long boom seemingly ending.

      Oh yes growing at a rate faster than all those countries that let covid rip are is definitely a failure of zero covid. Oh what’s that all those other countries are entering a recession (have been in a recession for a year)?

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        The fact remains the people are pissed at all the lockdowns, they take a toll both economic and pyschological.

        Also the virus isn't going anywhere, it's impossible to stamp it out fully, we can thank most of the rest of the world for that. If I were a young citizen of China I'd be pissed too, why should they suffer lockdowns for the rest of their lives when the rest of the world has given up on eradicating the disease?

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          I would easily rather have occasional lockdowns to prevent spread for the rest of my life than get covid over and over for the rest of my life. In a heartbeat.

          While I acknowledge that these people think the lockdowns suck the fact is they simply do not understand how bad the alternative is. I truly believe this is a classic case of “People in socialist countries not comprehending how evil and cruel life under capitalism can be because it seems so bad that it couldn’t possibly be true”

          Edit: Than not then

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Like, what, is it supposed to be a hard choice between “you can safely go to the club but only 10 months out of the year” or “you can go to the club at any time but you’ll likely catch a deadly disease”? That’s the easiest fucking choice of all time.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I also know people that got it 2+ times and they’re all fine

              Cool. I know people who got it 1 time and fucking died. And more people who can still barely go up stairs months later.

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                Ok, I also knew people that died in car crashes, should we ban all cars immediately overnight?

                • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  :rocz-yes:

                  That’s not the relevant comparison though. People die in car crashes which is why we require licenses, ban driving under the influence of drugs, have speed limits, require seat belts, revoke licenses from dangerous drivers, etc.

                  I’d say the pandemic version of that would be contact tracing, and isolated lockdowns to prevent spread, along with masks and vaccines.

                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Sure, sounds reasonable. The point is city-wide lockdowns forever with no end in sight are just not a reasonable policy IMO.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              It’s a nasty virus but some people here pretend like it’s the fucking ebola.

              No it’s not ebola, it’s far more dangerous than Ebola because it’s far more infectious. How are you comparing a virus that’s killed tens of millions to one that’s killed thousands at most and say the thousands is the worse one?

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Skin cancer also kills more people than ebola, should we ban people going out into the sun?

                Eradicating Covid is not happening, all countries are gonna have to find ways to live with it. I trust China will be able to find ways to minimize excess deaths, I can't imagine them having it as bad as the US.

                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    So on what basis should countries be hyperfocused on Covid then? There are plenty of things that kill more people than Covid.

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                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    Yes. They didn't though, whether we like it or not. Material conditions changed, Covid is here to stay unfortunately.

                    Also tbh it was unreasonable to expect from the whole world to contain Covid given the state of development of the world, especially the Global South.

                    The West has absolutely no excuse, however most African nations didn't even stand a chance in the first place given their position.

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          • space_comrade [he/him]
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            Yes, it is kinda terrible. There are people with mental health issues that don't tolerate being locked down well, there are people with jobs that depend on free movement (delivery jobs etc), there are people requiring regular medical attention and care that lockdowns make way harder to obtain.

            Stop pretending that the only people against lockdowns are young extroverted people that want to party or whatever.