• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The process of making right wing propaganda is identical to the process of beating a bad point and click adventure game. Apply every inventory item to the thing in front of you until you find the one that triggers a cutscene.

    Use [Woke] on Zelensky...that won't work

    Use [Gay] on Zelensky...nothing happened

    Use [Christian Victimhood Fetish] on Zelensky...

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    there really are a billion viable reasons to dislike zelensky, him being a jew isnt one of them

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      to be fair here banning the Russian church for racial reasons is in fact repressive and shitty but also fuck Tucker Carlson

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It kind of is as it is arresting and punishing people for their subtype of Christian faith. You can't just expect Russian orthodoxes to switch church to another one anymore than the British could just expect the Irish to switch from Catholicism to Protestantism

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I mean the books of paul do kind of say that Christianity is one body so yeah it kind of is.

              Christianity true to form decided to not listen to the instruction to no longer treat people differently based on race due to 16th century fears that not being racist would mean they couldn't steal from and enslave black people

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                It's not just Christians. Looking at you, Israelis treating black Jews like shit.

          • kristina [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Orthodox Christianity is fuckin whack and weird anyways with how the Patriarchs interfere with country politics. We need to resurrect Lenin to sort the whole thing out :lenin-crush-capitalism:

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              In this case they got in trouble with the Ukrainian government for trying to interfere against anti-russian racism so they managed to be the cool ones here if only because the other guys were nazis

          • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            This actually kind of happened in this case though. The Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Moscow Patriarchate basically collapsed with the war, and people just moved to the Ukrainian Patriarchate. Same church essentially, just different leadership. The UOC-MP was very small, immediately prior to being banned.

            • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah but to continue with the Irish Catholicism/Protestantism example, it's not a problem if Irish people decide to convert from Catholicism to Protestantism of their own accord, but it's definitely fucked up to target Irish Catholic churches.

              • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Yeah, forcing people to switch to the Nazi-regime-preferred branch of the church is still pretty fucked even if it doesn't impact as many people as you might expect. I wouldn't say it's quite as severe as the Catholic/Protestant example because it's still the same church with the same doctrine but different leadership, but yeah still fucked up and wrong.

                I just saw some posts back during the banning, referring to the UOC-MP as the "largest church in Ukraine" which was pretty inaccurate.

  • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "FOX NEWS ALERT"

    All news channels are the same lol. CNN has BREAKING NEWS at the bottom of the screen constantly whenever I catch a glimpse of it.

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They lead into their stories with "Breaking news" half the time too, it's entirely meaningless

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  • Bobby_DROP_TABLES [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I know that saying "Fox News shills for Russia" is cut and dry lib shit, but honestly what is this if not shilling for Russia? Tucker is pretty open in his support for Russia and it confuses the hell out of me; I can't think of a motivation for it outside of the Murdochs getting some kickbacks from some Russian oil barons.

      • ComRed2 [any]
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        2 years ago

        Or they just want to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, as these ghouls don't have any kind of beliefs beyond that.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Also important to keep in mind that "support" is entirely aesthetic / propagandistic here. We saw under Trump that even the more unhinged and mask-off version of the GOP still follows the same expansionist strategy into the former Soviet sphere of influence that started under Dubya and was continued under Obama. The USA didn't stop supporting the Azovite shelling of the Donbas once Trump came into office, Trump actively moved Amerikan troops eastwards from Germany to Poland, he also buried the SALT II contract which made Russia increase their hypersonic missile research. The only thing he did that wasn't pro-Ukraine was the Burisma stuff around Hunter Biden, which is entirely irrelevant when he at the same time increased the systematic encriclement of Russia the USA has practiced for 20 years now.

        The "pro-Putin" thing is entirely culture war shit. It operates within the same meaningless frame as the liberal hysteria about Russiagate, there is nothing behind it that constitutes realpolitik. Nobody in D.C. is an anti-imperialist who respects Russia's national interests. Some just practice performative pseudo-support to virtue signal their homophobia and transphobia, trigger the libs, and recuperate any and all anti-war sentiment on the right.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      This is one of those things it would take a long post to summarize but the 2016 Trump/Hillary stuff is just the surface level. It is still somewhat accurate to say Republicans support Russia simply because they do whatever it takes to be the opposite of libs.

      But that is obviously surface level. Deep down liberal democracy is the face of neoliberalism through the democratic party. Neoliberalism in the 21st century is about expansion e.g expanding NATO, wars in the ME, conflicts with China(delusional hopes of balkanization).

      That neoliberalism sometimes has to go straight up against older traditional right wing values. It is why the US despite having just as much of an vicious right wing as other fascist countries needs to be aggressive towards other right wing fascist countries. So eventually right wing socially conservative Russia remains just as big an enemy as soviet Russia.

      Traditional right wingers, or maybe grifters towards that group find it very easy to exploit this by asking why should you, an American right wing fascist support liberal woke Washington instead of socially conservative Russia. These grifters may have "genuine" right wing ideological conflicts in their head. But they are powerless to oppose neoliberal foreign policy.

      Trump was not actually pro-Russian in any meaningful way, as we see today the whole 8 years period where the US armed and trained Ukraine with no internal opposition from Republicans/right wingers.

      Indeed we go back to the beginning, right wingers are using Russia as a political tool against the Democrats. They can easily exploit this to find a common ground against the Democrats. But they do not and can not stop American neoliberals from expanding aggressively, in other words, from continuing to impose US imperialism. It is the easiest way to oppose the Democrats and they'd do it for free.

      In the end, the Republican grift works for Russia because mostly-"white" orthodox christian Russia is a much easier pill to swallow than right wing medieval Islamic theocracies. It doesn't work for third world non-christian nations.

  • AsleepInspector
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    2 years ago

    :live-tucker-reaction: "The crosses in my yard I erected myself caught fire from old extension cables, and now I have a burning cross in my front yard. Suddenly, I realize, I am in the minority and am persecuted. More on the War on Christmas, tonight at ten o clock TuckerTime."

    • Kill7Bil_BrainDemons [any]
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      2 years ago

      Zelensky bans all political opposition as Rashist commies: he sleep

      Zelensky bans Russian Orthodox Church: real shit

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    1 year ago

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  • Deadend [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I wish it was Z just said that it’s possible that they would shoot down Santa Claus as he could be a Russian drone, and would have zero regrets over it.