I'm definitely not very ideologically coherent as a leftist, but, I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of confinement. There will always be a small fraction of people who are permanently violently dangerous and unable to change, and those people should be treated as relatively comfortably as we can while still keeping prison staff and their fellow prisoners safe, thus, there will always be a need for some kind of institutional confinement.
Beyond that however, a lot of issues that people are imprisoned are a result of maladaptive cognition plus exacerbating stress and circumstances such as mental illness or economic uncertainty - for people like this, it's worth considering to what degree (if at all) confinement is necessary for rehabilitation. Obviously, it's ideal to think that we can rehabilitate everyone without confining them, but personally I'm not sure that is always possible. Many people who are trapped into mentally unhealthy loops of behavior are trapped because they can't get out of the trap on their own, often because tackling those problems can be very painful.
Ultimately a humane system built on understanding will be the result of real research.
There are also a number of other conditions that can cause people become extremely prone to violence, like brain injuries or brain tumors.
You may not like it, but there are people who simply are not safe to be around and never will be baring some kind of medical intervention that isn't currently possible. The human brain is, to put it politely, a barely functional mess and can go wrong in all kinds of ways with horrific consequences that have nothing to do with socialization or learned behavior.
I think assuming otherwise is utopian. Even in nearly perfectly egalitarian hunter gatherer societies, there were occasionally some people who needed to be expelled from the tribe. In a totally globalized system like communism, there is no option for expulsion so confinement would be the next step. Though hopefully rare, and much more humane than what currently exists
Things aren't exactly great in primitive communism. Life is more precarious, they have less resources to rehabilitate people. There are very reasonable critiques of anprimism even ignoring "this would involve killing most of humanity"
I'm definitely not very ideologically coherent as a leftist, but, I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of confinement. There will always be a small fraction of people who are permanently violently dangerous and unable to change, and those people should be treated as relatively comfortably as we can while still keeping prison staff and their fellow prisoners safe, thus, there will always be a need for some kind of institutional confinement.
Beyond that however, a lot of issues that people are imprisoned are a result of maladaptive cognition plus exacerbating stress and circumstances such as mental illness or economic uncertainty - for people like this, it's worth considering to what degree (if at all) confinement is necessary for rehabilitation. Obviously, it's ideal to think that we can rehabilitate everyone without confining them, but personally I'm not sure that is always possible. Many people who are trapped into mentally unhealthy loops of behavior are trapped because they can't get out of the trap on their own, often because tackling those problems can be very painful.
Ultimately a humane system built on understanding will be the result of real research.
"Thats a nice argument senator, why don't you back that up with a source?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
There are also a number of other conditions that can cause people become extremely prone to violence, like brain injuries or brain tumors.
You may not like it, but there are people who simply are not safe to be around and never will be baring some kind of medical intervention that isn't currently possible. The human brain is, to put it politely, a barely functional mess and can go wrong in all kinds of ways with horrific consequences that have nothing to do with socialization or learned behavior.
is this true? would this be true in a society that actually embraces equality?
Yes
This is, frankly, lib shit
I think assuming otherwise is utopian. Even in nearly perfectly egalitarian hunter gatherer societies, there were occasionally some people who needed to be expelled from the tribe. In a totally globalized system like communism, there is no option for expulsion so confinement would be the next step. Though hopefully rare, and much more humane than what currently exists
Things aren't exactly great in primitive communism. Life is more precarious, they have less resources to rehabilitate people. There are very reasonable critiques of anprimism even ignoring "this would involve killing most of humanity"