This site is wearing me down this past week.

edit: I am more worn down. Shouldn't have posted this thread. Feeling awful about my future.

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Because in the end if you're telling people they're mentally ill if they don't go into indoor environments with people who don't mask, it doesn't matter what your internal monologue about it is.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      People should be wearing masks more but yes I do believe a lot of people here are suffering from health anxiety, I'm not gonna back down from that.

      Covid sucks but obsessing this much over it isn't helping anybody unless they are among the vulnerable demographics who should obviously be taking more precautions than the average person.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Okay well then you're just a straight up covid science denier. 'Vulnerable demographics' include people who have gotten covid before. Reinfections are common. Damage is cumulative. There is no 'safe' population that it's okay to give covid to.

        And I'll add: you can't perfectly sequester the 'vulnerable' communities with a disease that's as contagious as smallpox. And either way you slice that objective reality: you're doing eugenics.

          • macabrett
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            2 years ago

            If that effect of Covid was that prevalent and as serious as you’re implying we’d be seeing a lot more dead this year.

            Have you checked America's excess deaths for 2022?

            • space_comrade [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Looks pretty in line with expectation considering the amount of Covid infections. I don't see anything that would indicate people's immune system's collapsing en masse.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                So even after killing off all the most vulnerable people, it's managing to maintain that.

                As much log is burning now as kindling when the fire started.

              • macabrett
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                2 years ago

                I'm guessing you think the surges of flu and RSV above any previous year was due to immunity debt, a thing that was made up entirely by covid deniers?

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                  • macabrett
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                    2 years ago

                    Yes, you're describing immunity debt, which has no basis in reality and was made up by covid deniers.

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                  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    We know covid weakens peoples immune systems not based on inference taken from how diseases propagate. We know it damages the immune system from counting T-cells in people with infections.

                    THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH SPECULATION GOING ON IN THIS THREAD

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The science isn't whatever you want it to be. I encourage you to leave your mind palace and actually look, since it sounds like you haven't since the Omicron wave.

            And yes, a lot more people did die.

            What are you even disputing? Do you believe in herd immunity now as much as chuds did in 2020?

            • space_comrade [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              What are you even disputing?

              I'm disputing the general sentiment here that a healthy person getting Covid (maybe even more than once) necessarily implies doom and gloom for that person for the rest of their lives.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Someone is either ignorant of or indifferent to the observed percentage of people who get long covid. It's high.

                And you're performing extreme cope if rhetorically your open ended let 'er rip campaign ends for each individual the second time they get it.

                Getting real "it's not going to happen to me" vibes from this conversation

                  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    I'm going to disengage now and I'd like you to know I stopped reading your comment when you led off with a personal anecdote wrapped in two tortillas of snark

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          • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I don’t think the idea that damage is cumulative is really settled science.

            covid damages the immune system, making repeat infections more damaging. There might be confounding variables but covid damage being cumulative is absolutely settled science. Even ignoring that, if you keep rolling a d20 the chance of you rolling a 1 at some point approaches one the more you roll.

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              • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                We know that covid is particularly damaging to the immune system though. Yes, all infections cause immune system damage, obviously.

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      • MeatfuckerDidNothing [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I do believe a lot of people here are suffering from health anxiety

        Don't pathologize people who are trying to avoid a deadly and debilitating disease

        Covid sucks but obsessing this much over it isn’t helping anybody unless they are among the vulnerable demographics

        1. Everyone is to some extent vulnerable

        2. This is saying "fuck the vulnerable" which is just straight up eugenics

        • macabrett
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          2 years ago

          I appreciate you, comrade.