Shared by George Takei today on Mastodon.

Full of gems like: "Don’t dismiss their anger and pain. For people who consider themselves progressive, the war in Gaza with its high civilian casualties can create a strong sense of turmoil, disillusionment, frustration, and even stronger emotions like fury and disgust."

How to know if you're progressive?

  1. Does the genocide high civilian casualties of brown people frustrate or disgust you?

Here's the article if you want to lose some brain cells https://thinkbigpicture.substack.com/p/biden-gaza-israel-2024-election

    • edge [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      This article seems so close to getting it, then decides that it doesn’t matter actually and they’ll definitely be able to convince anyone who has uttered the term “Genocide Joe” to vote for him anyway.

  • edge [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    But this rarely works because 1) in their mind, nothing could be more evil or harmful than genocide

    How can someone possibly write this and not second guess themself? Yes, genocide is indeed pretty much the most evil thing.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      the occurrence in the world where civilians stop

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    I seriously want somebody to ask a notable super-lib like Takei - how much suffering and genocide would it take for you to stop supporting Biden. 75,000 dead - plus a corresponding number of injured and missing which means probably dead? If not that then 100,000+? 125,00+? 150,000+?

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
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      8 months ago

      Doesn't he have a comic about how poorly japanese Americans were treated? Guess it's okay if it's happening to Palestinians not him

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        I assume that he has American exceptionalism brain even though he and his family were put into a Japanese internment camp.

        not him

        Sympathy is so simple. Just look at those poor people and how they are suffering.

        Empathy is anything but simple. I could be one of those poor people.

        It will never fail to amaze me how many people are pathologically unable to move beyond sympathy. They have a defective or nonexistent sense of empathy and I don't think it can be mended.

    • edge [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      “But Trump would kill 50 quintillion so you have to vote for Biden.”

  • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 months ago

    So it's okay when Israel does it George? https://www.topshelfcomix.com/mobile/catalog/george-takei-they-called-us-enemy/1011

    Or cause it's not happening to you directly...

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    They always take this preachy, condescending tone like they're lecturing a child about right and wrong.

    Liberals, please understand : not everyone shares in this idea that you should get to assume a moral high-ground by default, especially on the issue of minimizing an ongoing genocide to try to pressure people into voting for a candidate that is shitty even aside from their material support for that genocide.

    Liberal proselytizers come across as deeply repellent in general, and this behavior only makes it worse.

  • idkmybffjoeysteel [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    listen fat, the only thing that can stop a bad guy doing a genocide is a good guy doing a genocide