like there are legit covid sceptics on this site saying shit like "lol just touch grass" and "you need to go out" while we are currently heading to another peak (https://biobot.io/data/). and most claim to not be "covid sceptics" with weak defenses of their treats like "i cant just put my whole life on hold" and "im not just gonna live in fear" :yea:

while these ppls presence on this site is enough justification for this post, i wanna add that i woke up this morning w a sore throat and had a slight cough yesterday thats getting worse. gonna take a triple test today (covid, RSV, flu), but im p sure its covid bc my gf's mom tested positive 2 days ago and she still doesnt wear a mask around the house. i cant skip work bc i have bills to pay (living alone, gf lives w parents), but im lucky and dont see many ppl at my job so i can distance and mask while working. ive never gone "back to normal": go out only when necessary, drive thru theatre is big for us bc of safety, always wear mask even tho NOBODY else here does and me and my gf get strange looks and sometimes these fucking crackers around here COUGH IN OUR DIRECTION. i sacrificed my social life for 3 years and bc everyone else is too selfish to do the same, i have to face a 1 in 6 chance of disability and a chance of hospitalization/death. i hate this country so damn much

so despite everything i got the :covid-cool: . from now on were taking covid seriously. n95 + cloth mask EVERYWHERE. even at her house bc we obv cant trust her parents. im not letting us take off our masks unless we're alone, no exceptions. UGGGHHHH it sucks, ive avoided this disease for 3 years and now im so afraid that ill lose some neurological function, get GI problems, liver problems, sensory disability, etc. its so horrifying and stressful. guys pls take this seriously. nobody else is but i expected more empathy from ppl on this site

  • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    At this rate it's starting to seem like this is going to turn into another vegan situation, where there are still carnists on the site but discussion between the two groups is de facto banned because it devolves into arguing every time

    • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The original discussion was about not being anti-social. But then enough people who hang out on mastadon/discord got together and complained because their feelings were hurt. That's when someone was like "what about covid" to which the touch grass peopled argued against because the point was that going outside won't kill you. It's like when someone brought up racism during the first vegan debate. That's what kicked off a weeks long struggle session and a bunch of vagueposting and strawmanning. Everyone got so pissed after that, there was no going back.

      • sunfane [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The original discussion specifically recommended going out partying and kissing strangers. Either way I think a lot of users are sensitive to the kind of advice/posts that essentially boil down to "here's how you fix all your problems", as if they hadn't considered improving their social lives before today.

        • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Well there's this weird assumption that the people concerned about the pandemic don't have some sort of life already or are otherwise being antisocial for giving a shit.

          Like I've got friends, partners, exes, been drunk and had fun plenty of times. I just don't join into the plague fest.

          I'll argue the real antisocial thing is to stop giving a shit and spreading diseases to your friends and family and strangers

          Edit: not saying you in particular are saying this, but it seems to be the sentiment in general from other's posts. That if you're being cautious you don't have a life. it's a bizarre talking points and reminds me of conservative shit.

      • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Completely minimizing people concerned about the pandemics by blaming it on whatever the fuck they do in the discord.

        No idea about any of that, but I'm definitely arguing in good faith that you should still take precautions even if you're tired of it or whatever.

        • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I agree. You should be wearing a mask, you should have the latest booster, and you should ventilate meeting spaces when you can.

          I'm not minimizing anything. I agree with covid precautions. I also know this site likes to argue and pretend they're fighting some grand cause.

          • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The thing that was minimizing was you blaming it on some discord and mastadon chat.

            It's patronizing actually, because it suggests there's some half assed conspiracy at work

            • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              It's not a conspiracy it's a group of people who don't have anything better to do than police the site for bad takes. Pretty common on internet forums. And we were raided by discord users at the beginning, stirring up shit to cause problems.

              • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I'm telling you that's not the case, or at least the entirety of it, in this instance though

        • macabrett
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          2 years ago

          I wasn't even aware we had a discord fwiw, that's not where this came from for me.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            In the Chapo lore there's a CTH discord and then there's the fake poser discord that thinks it's the CTH discord.