Also, literally who cares. This isn't politics. Zoomers and millenials are very left-wing and that hasn't changer significantly in recent years. This isn't happening at scales that are shifting the political landscape. Idk why there is an obsession with this shit.

  • meth_dragon [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    i waste a lot of time debatebro-ing PUA/manosphere incels because i am masochistic. here is my list of social engineering shit.

    • be aesthetic, but not too aesthetic (you hit diminishing returns quickly in terms of attraction)
    • OLD and bar scene gender ratios are at best 50/50 and are highly zero-sum, optimization is almost entirely aesthetic, diminishing returns don't apply as much here
    • invading female spaces is effective, but is usually a larger commitment
    • there is a niche/type that you attract, figure out what it is and prioritize improving that demographic
    • get a hobby that involves touching grass, getting good at something real builds more confidence than just looking good
    • creepiness is dark attractiveness
    • 'putting yourself out there' is code for getting rejected enough times that you can better interpret body language
    • stop masturbating, you care less about rejection and engage in more risk taking behavior when you're horny
    • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      creepiness is dark attractiveness

      Just curious, what do you mean by this?

      invading female spaces is effective, but is usually a larger commitment

      Also this? Like join a yoga studio or a knitting club?

      • meth_dragon [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        1. just a shitty way of saying that your actions are often perceived through the lens of how attractive you are, e.g the 'hello? hr?' lady meme

        2. yes

      • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        That last one is 100% #nofap.

        I think that like PUA stuff, once the toxic elements are removed, nofap isn't actually a bad idea. I mean young men are so addicted to hardcore porn these days that it's no wonder many of them getting erectile dysfunction when they finally do get with a real woman. Just like "touching grass" and "logging off" I don't think it's a bad thing to abstain from masturbating for a little bit. Especially if masturbation is mentally linked in your mind to porn. If it takes like a few weeks (or in hardcore cases) a few months to deprogram your porn brain, that's probably for the better. Also, you'll come to appreciate realistic beauty instead of the "mega hot chicks" in the porn videos.

      • meth_dragon [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        the point is to get people out there. imo people are more prone to overthinking and less prone to action when they get to just relieve themselves with porn every day or two. obviously sexpesting is bad, but there needs to be some measure of proactive behavior, and masturbating less helps with that.

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      I miss when the PUA guys wore funny costumes. The Mystery dudes were gross but they didn't seem to harbor as much actively aggressive hate towards women as the Andrew Tate guys that would replace them.

      Plus, you could always recognize them... because of the costumes.