• build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Not reading the article, but this is something I don't think is true. For the "far-right Trumpists" or what ever you call these hold outs, showing that they are dissatisfied with the party mainstream and are rebels that will stand up to the Republicans is the point. They don't have a positive, coherent agenda they are advancing beyond this grift. For the squad or whoever to do this to force a vote on M4A or something else, it would likely backfire. Because the party could easily give in to it and then, rather than showing who is actually for or against "progressive good thing", like M4A, they could let several non-squad members vote for it and just make sure there are enough votes against it that it has no chance of passing. Then the party can say "look, these socialists are ideological and unrealistic. The Democrats want good things, we just never have quite enough votes/power to get it" and advance the moderate's own rhetoric. Muddying the waters and accomplishing the opposite of what "force the vote" was supposed to be about. It is a stupid strategy if you are advancing an agenda, rather than a grifter that is advancing their own career by showing their dissatisfaction with the mainstream party. And even concessions McCarthy gave were due to Republicans trying to appeal to the most extreme part of their base, were Democrat's base are conditioned to accept that "we are the best possible, the people more progressive than us are helping the Right by being unreasonable".

      • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yes, it means until we have an organized mass base and some forms of dual power progressive politicians are useless. But I am saying that I thing that the disruption and media ruckus would have the opposite effect. Because of the media's right wing bias and the Democrats messaging (as opposed to the Republican's) is based around "we want good progressive things, but the only real way to attain it is through incremental moderate reform" means that that media backlash will harm left/progressives in a way that it doesn't for the far-right. It wont really be that much of a mask-off moment, because they can even let party mainstreamers vote for it if there is still no hope of it passing. Same Manchin/Lieberman/Sinema type bullshit.

        • Lurker123 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think the hope was always that ‘progressives’ get targets to challenge in primaries based on the machin/sinemas of the house. Keep in mind the elections are every 2 years for the house, as opposed to 6 for the senate.