I don't really have a position on the issue one way or the other, but it is insane how quickly this somewhat small issue (compared to stuff that everyone has been talking about for decades, like abortion) became part of the culture war, I already see "come and take it" memes being made.

  • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    at best you get pwm, and that's not as common as it should be.

    the magnetic materials is a bigger problem than you let on. plenty of recipes call for using glass on the stovetop and several whole-ass kinds of cooking can't be done with steel pans.

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      using glass on the stovetop

      i'm in here defending gas stoves but I haven't the balls to apply gas to glass

      I'm afraid to even put my non-borosilicate pyrex in the oven :deeper-sadness:

      • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        it works fine. plenty of ceramics were used directly with fire for millennia.

        they make metal plates you can use on an induction burner so you can still use those types of cookware, but at that point youre dealing with all the problems of a coil stove.

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I'm just afraid of the thermal properties of glass suddenly deciding to do something Fun because some hot spot formed or some area cooled too quickly

          I very rarely use glass bakeware, pretty much just to make chicken alfredo because I'm afraid something wrong will happen and it will blow up

          • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            ive never had a casserole dish break. my aunt put one straight from a 450 degree oven onto a near freezing marble countertop and it split down the middle though.

            if youre worried about the old pyrex shatter just stick to ceramic casserole dishes. they aren't as durable as pyrex and don't have the same cooking properties but they tend to break slowly and in real boring ways.

            • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              ive never had a casserole dish break. my aunt put one straight from a 450 degree oven onto a near freezing marble countertop and it split down the middle though.

              see that might have been the old pyrex, that's part of what worries me, knowing that old pyrex was pretty durable in terms of thermal shock but they cheaped out and transitioned to more kinetic resistant bakeware. There should be a law against changes like that I tell you hwut

              • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Idk if there was a change, but several lab equipment companies have had to recall borosilicate glassware because of batch issues in the past and there are manufacturers whose shit breaks in different ways or has different refractive indices or whatever. So once you find one you trust stick with it I guess.

                • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]M
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                  2 years ago

                  in 1998 pyrex stopped using borosilicate glass and used regular soda-lime glass (in amerika, in europe and other places pyrex is still borosilicate). modern amerikan pyrex is no more resistant to heating than any old glass bottle. of course, labs still get the real stuff