My history teacher brought up the subject of the Korean war and went into the usual liberal analysis. I raised my hand once in class to bring up the point of sanctions and their effect on the DPRK's economy, which she conceded. This is the email I sent afterwards:
- Who started the Korean War?
The dividing line was drawn by the U.S. without a democratic vote and so that the U.S could have Seoul (which was the traditional capital of the Korean Peninsula) in their occupied territory. (see p. 73 of Gowans’ Patriots, Traitors and Empires, 2018). The Japanese collaboration, concentration camps for leftists, the massacre of student protestors at Syngman Rhee’s palace in 1960 (see p. 349 of Bruce Cumings’ Korea’s Place in the Sun: A Modern History, 2005), were clearly not indicative of a “democratic south”.
"Korea is a major responsibility which we [Amerikans] as a world power have voluntarily assumed. . . . We have committed here some of our most excruciating errors.... Opinion polls show that 64 out of every 100 Koreans dislike us." Mark Gayn in New York Star, November, 1947.
So the U.S. undemocratically divided the North (the Korean peninsula was united beforehand), disregarded the pact with the USSR that the division would only exist temporarily (Gowans, ch. 4), ignored the unpopularity in their occupation of the Republic of Korea, and the North is the aggressor for invading themselves? What nonsense!
- The people believe that “Kim Il Sung is God”
You are mistaken. The “he is god” notion is a confusion. This is derived from the Ch'ŏndogyo Korean religion (see the Chondoist Chongu party represented by deputies in the SPA) which declares “we are god.” But the idea that it is widely believed that Kim Il Sung created the earth is nonsense. There is no evidence of this idea existing.
What of the notion that you can be punished if you do not have a photo of Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il in your home? Again, no such idea exists. Perhaps you are referencing the story “North Korean woman executed for not saving photo.” This story is derived from [an anonymous source] in the tabloid “Daily NK” (original article here), which is funded by the NED. The NED is funded by the U.S. government. (here’s something I’ve wrote on this)
Note: Why these sensationalist stories?
- Is/Was the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” Democratic?
I have written something on this as well [see here].
- Is the DPRK an aggressor? And what is the role of “self-imposed” isolation?
Again (again). I have written a short piece on this accessible here.
- What of the photo of the contrast of lights in the Korean Peninsula?
It is true that the North has an inferior economy (this is due to sanctions first and foremost). Nonetheless, the photo used is inaccurate (see this clip; excerpt from lecture available here).
Note: I’ll link a review I wrote of B. R. Myers’ The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves and Why It Matters since the book is cited often and the review has insights on Japanese collaboration in SK and the 2010 shelling of Yeonpyeong Island, which might be helpful.
** Someone mentioned that the calendar revolves around Kim Il Sung’s birth. This is somewhat true, for example the year is Juche 112 in the DPRK (the months are the same though, see KCNA). Many nations have different calendars, so it is not unusual for this to be the case. And it is not unusual that the founder of a nation should be incorporated into the nation’s calendar. Any critiques of a “cult of personality” (ex. the somewhat linear succession of NDC/SAC presidency) are deeply ignorant. This is a criticism of the people for electing a certain family as a direct result of the devastation (3.5 million Koreans were killed by the U.S.) and the original leadership of Kim Il Sung through this. The absolute entitlement to make the critique from the standpoint of the nation that perpetrated the massacre cannot be overstated.
Here is her response: I appreciate your thoughtful effort to clarify. I would love the chance to chat further as I have several wonderings about the information you shared. Shall we schedule a scholarly chat on the matter? Are you free for lunch sometime next week?
And my response to hers:
Sure, I’m free for lunch whenever, although I’m not sure what you mean by “wonderings about the information you shared”? Bruce Cumings is a respected Korean War scholar in the West but Stephen Gowans is not. However, his work is well sourced and derived from a lot of the research done by Gowans.
Perhaps I should clarify the division point. Gowans writes specifically, “At midnight on August 10, 1945, two US army colonels, Dean Rusk and Charles Bonesteel, were ordered by John J. McCloy, Assistant Secretary of War, to “find a place to divide Korea” to temporarily partition the peninsula into separate US and Soviet occupation zones to accept the Japanese surrender. McCloy, a Wall Street lawyer, would later serve as president of the World Bank, chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank and chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations. Rusk, a future US secretary of state, and Bonesteel, who would command the combined US and ROK forces in Korea in the late 1960s, chose the 38th parallel as a dividing line because it would place Seoul, Korea’s capital, within the US zone” (p. 73 of Gowans’ Patriots Traitors and Empires); Gowans cites p. 187 of Bruce Cumings’ Korea’s Place in the Sun. The two Americans who divided the peninsula had absolutely no knowledge of it, and thus the division is completely arbitrary colonial-type subjugation with no historical or geographic precedent.
The only issue I can imagine is the two youtube videos. The former is a video which puts the sensationalist stories in context and is by no means a source, merely a means of conveying my perspective whilst keeping the letter succinct. The latter is self-explanatory, a lecture from a scholar at Rutgers University. However, it is unlikely that these brief complaints were the issue, since apparently a meeting is in order. You said next week, this is fine with me.
I'm extremely worried about the meeting. Did I mishandle the emails and how should I approach the "scholarly discussion"? Any help would be appreciated.
Edit: Just noticed the typo in my reply saying that "Gowans sources Gowans" when I should have said Cumings. I have lost.
Ya did good, kid. I’ve worked as a teacher and it sounds to me like she’s not angry. Bear in mind though that she will lose her job if she shows the slightest support or understanding for the DPRK. It doesn’t matter what facts you present, nor does your politeness or logic or whatever matter. Supporting the DPRK = no more teaching for her, ever. Also just wanted to add that Ghost Flames is a great (secretly communist) book if you’re interested in the Korean War. Also, let us know how it goes, and be aware that Project Veritas or similar organizations are always looking for students or teachers whose careers they would love to destroy. If a journalist or even a random stranger or supposed expert emails you and says they want to talk about this, it means they want to get your pro-DPRK sentiments on camera, put it on Fox News, and destroy you.
ALSO, you probably already know this, but if you need support, form a student union. You meeting alone with teachers / administrators = not scary. You meeting these same people but with union backing = very scary.
I dont think this is actually true though maybe it is in rich white high schools
Unless someone can show me an example of a teacher showing support for the DPRK, I won't believe it's possible. The propaganda regarding the DPRK is so much worse and so much more pervasive than that around the USSR or China, although American teachers run similar risks for even hinting that the situation in such places might not be so bad as the corporate media says. The first time I heard someone say something positive about the USSR was in (private) college from a Russian professor who had grown up there. She loved Soviet art but still wasn't crazy about the USSR itself, although she reserved most of her criticism for Putin (this was in the mid to late 2000s). I lived in South Korea for eight years, and while I never heard anyone express support for the DPRK, I quickly became aware that a large majority of people there either don't care about it or are much more interested in peace and cooperation than war. I only became aware of all the propaganda surrounding the DPRK when I became a communist some years later.
How come support cant be in the form of a normal person that is skeptical of us media and north korea propaganda and not someone who wears military uniforms and has portrait of kim jung un in their classroom
At least until China's rise in 2013 (when Xi took over), the DPRK was almost the sole justification for the presence of the US military in East Asia. Workers are free to question corporate propaganda, but PMCs will lose their jobs if they do so, and are specifically hired because they have already proven that they can be relied on to toe the ideological line. I highly recommend Jeff Schmidt's Disciplined Minds if you'd like to know more.
Our teacher actually told us that she had to take an oath that she wasn't a communist which apparently is standard practice in California since my other history teacher said the same thing.
Jaysus Croyst, but that doesn't make any sense because Commiefornia is RUN by communists who will tax anything, even my dick!
If you didn't hear it, the Revleft Radio episode on Gabriel Gipe is pretty relevant. He was a teacher in Caliphate-ornia, too!
I love RevLeft, thank you for the episode recommendation!
This sounded so fucked I had to look it up. It's not exactly true. This is the text:
I,_______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter.
okie well apparently the implication was clear because both history teachers explained it in that context