dirtbag leftist hero

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    The second sentence makes me laugh. Especially "robustly".

    Critics of the hypothesis that Lincoln was homosexual emphasize that Lincoln married and had four children. Scholar Douglas Wilson writes that Lincoln as a young man displayed robustly heterosexual behavior, including telling stories to his friends of his interactions with women.

      • DoubleShot [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Gonna start a clothing store for tall bi folks, "Bi & Large"

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          finally, large skinny bi dudes can get pants long enough to cuff them! :gator-bi:

    • nabana [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Zero records of a gay person ever having a hetero relationship or telling their friends stories of hetero relationships or situations in which they interacted with the opposite sex (which definitely makes you hetero 100%).

      Not even worth mentioning that there's other sexualities of course. Bi/pan etc all no exist. Only full homo and no homo. And the homos are super obvious always to us straights which is why the gay panic defen.. oh shit oh fuck.

  • edge [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    While the section title includes "bisexuality", the text itself basically gives no acknowledgement to the fact that he could have been bi. It's just like "these people say he was gay and these other people say 'but he liked women', surely we'll never know which one of those two is true".

  • Blep [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Lincoln was a chickenshit coward for not immediately creating black militias to hold the south after the civil war

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    The Gore Vidal essay linked on that page is worth reading, despite some oddities: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2005/01/lincoln200501

    Vidal's novel Lincoln, following the theory of Lincoln's law partner Bill Herndon, implies that Lincoln gave Mary Todd syphilis, hence both her madness and the early deaths of some of their children.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think the whole Mary Tood being crazy thing was just a massive case of gaslighting that historians continue to this day

      She knew the slavers from the south (including the VP) had conspired to murder her husband and no one publicly believed her because they didn't want to reignite the Civil War even though it was obvious she was right so they called her crazy

      • Wertheimer [any]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah. Abe Lincoln also suffered from depression but no one was institutionalizing him for madness. Or depicting him as a madman in popular novels. Mary Todd did have mental health issues, though. I think it's more that the "madness" is a simplification and an overstatement rather than an outright fabrication. Anyway, it's been more than twenty years since I read the Vidal novel so I can't remember how much he leaned into the "madwoman" angle rather than a more modern analysis.

        Edit - Since he was pressing the syphilis angle he probably did make her as "mad" as possible, but I really don't remember. He did make guilt a major element of Lincoln's depression, so it wasn't the "damn that Mary Todd for having feelings and therefore interfering with the great man of history" attitude I feel like I've seen in other fictionalized depictions of Lincoln.