For those who don't know, Chris Avellone is of the end considered the best writer currently in western RPGs. Apparently a couple years ago he was acting like a sex pest towards a young girl in his circle (for what it's worth, Stephanie Sterling says that people they personally know have said Avellone is a creep)

Anyways in the comments of this video there's a comment by some chud:

"So what? There's no proof of the allegations and also pretty much any great RPG of the past has had Avellones name on it. I'm tired of all these allegations, I just want my favorite game designer to start making games again"

Yeah, let's just ignore that he potentially assaulted someone so you can play your video games dude.

  • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    :geordi-no: Chris Avellone is of the end considered the best writer currently in western RPGs

    :geordi-yes: Chris Avellone Josh Sawyer is of the end considered the best writer currently in western RPGs

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah it sucked learning Avellone is a creep but it's not like he's uniquely talented in design

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I like a lot of the games he's worked on, but Jesus Christ his self insert :libertarian-approaching: moralizers are so exhausting - Kreia, Ulysses, Ravel, etc.

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Kreia's contrarianism I abide because her goal was never to guide you, just manipulate you into carrying out your part of her plans, also I never felt like the narrative implied her moralizing was anything but self-absorbed justification

          Also I never read Ravel as anything but a deeply tragic creature, as the Nameless One points out her riddle has no answer and she obfuscates to keep people at arm's length and herself feels lost and confused despite her power

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's wild that people latched onto Kreia as being super right about everything despite the fact that, you know, the end of the game has you stopping her.

              • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                If you go Dark Side she chides you for that too lol

                The whole point of her doing that is to sow doubt and withhold her approval

                The important part is that those Jedi Masters die and she can try to channel your soul void to kill the Force itself

                  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Playing it on PC is now, as far as I'm concerned, the only valid option given you can't install the restoration project on a console. The game is literally unfinished. The publisher pushed it out the door early to make the Christmas holiday that year.

                  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    The Force. She wants to destroy the Force because it destroys lives and creates these giant wars in the stars, a sort of "Star War" if you will

                    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                      2 years ago

                      Huh, that not a bad plan actually. The force as love craftian paracite isn't explored enough

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          • TheCaconym [any]
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            2 years ago

            Also I never read Ravel as anything but a deeply tragic creature

            I know nothing about Kreia since I haven't played KOTOR but on this, same. Ravel wasn't a self insert; she was a wreck. Incredibly powerful but a wreck all the same - and the writing makes it pretty clear IMO

            • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Legit the first NPC I encountered who had motherly vibes that felt real

              And then later abusive mother vibes

              • TheCaconym [any]
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                2 years ago

                Same here, and honestly that dialog with her is like my third most appreciated moment of the game I think. Above would be the secret tomb you find with a shit-ton of your memories with warnings; and also the sensates vault.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          Ulysses is an amusingly vain character. The pacifist option for making him back down requires having listened to all his audio logs and picking apart his moral philosophy with his own words. It comes across less like you're changing his mind and more that he's just happy that someone actually cares about what he has to say.

          • keepcarrot [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Oh, we're talking about a different Ulysses. Thought a major slag sesh was about to start haha

            • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              UlyssesT will back down from a fight if you demonstrate that you've read his Star Citizen dunk posts :che-laugh:

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        My brain didn't even notice the grammar goof lol. Sawyer has impressed me a lot more than Avollone in recent years - PoE and Pentiment are :chefs-kiss:

          • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            It was pretty great, and seemed to be well researched. I recommend it if you're at all interested in history, art, or the late medieval/early modern setting.

            There's also a solid amount of queer representation in a historical setting, which is neat.