its completely different thing when you mischaracterize your growths to other people and capitalize on them believing you
and body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria are very different things and its transphobic as fuck to act like theyre the same. body dysmorphia has no cure (edit: but does have treatments via ssris that dont alter your body), if you do one alteration you wont get relief, and you will find a new issue. with gender dysphoria, you do get relief after treatment. this is by the metrics and by the admissions of people that actually have these issues.
so yeah, if i went around lying to trans people that i wasnt on E and to buy my soy milk supplements to achieve my tit gains, that'd be fucked. especially if i am doing treatments to achieve tit growth that are dangerous (of which there are some in fact).
TBH, I didn’t actually know that. But admittedly I also don’t really care, I guess. If you’re allowed to alter your body as you wish, why the fuck not anybody else?
Why are you fucking special?
Bro, if the alterations actually make people feel better, I'm all for it. What I'm against is self harm. People that have a never ending need to get bigger are demonstrably removing years, sometimes as many as four decades, off their lifespan. And it's all from fucked societal perceptions.
Go look into steroid abuse mishaps. So many bodybuilders die age 40-50 because of it. My bf is a bodybuilder himself and knows people that have died from this
There are people with BDD that have a never-ending desire to just cut their arms and legs off. Are you ok with that level of self harm?
Honestly, I want to cut parts of my skin off, & have them pulled tighter around my body; cause they don’t attach right anymore due to my having been morbidly obese since middle-school. So I don’t see how I can really argue against it, in all honesty.
Excess skin removal surgeries can actually reduce pain and afaik is covered by some insurances. I'd personally consider it reconstructive. Studies do show reconstructive surgeries provide better mental health outcomes but obviously the way insurance companies categorize things are nutty. Its important to talk to docs about post-surgery studies and ask for how happy people are afterwards statistically. Take a look at before and after pictures too. Sometimes it isn't all rosy.
I’m sorry I tried to push your buttons about the HRT thing. Yeah, that was transphobic behavior on my part, and I understand why my previous (original even) account got banned, because no that’s not acceptable behavior. I am sorry if I hurt you in having done that.
I appreciate the self awareness :meow-hug:
And beyond that, tbh I don’t see what is actually wrong with people choosing to, or wanting to live with a disability even if they had an option to do otherwise. I understand that yes, it makes living life, especially in a society that does everything it can to make even basic subsistence for people with disabilities as close to impossible as it can be, very difficult. I still think that, on principle, that should be something that they’re allowed to do if they want to I guess.
I just disagree. For example, I know some trans women that have gotten extremely experimental surgeries that reduce things like collarbone width, their height, or even went and got bottom surgeries at cheap, not reputable doctors. They killed themselves. Those were people that I knew and helped and cared about. Gender dysphoria is widely regarded as treatable and even has a reputation of treatments being miracle cures for a sufferer's mental health (metrics show extreme rates of satisfaction post-treatment for surgeries and hrt, with the least satisfied treatment being FTM bottom surgery, with a 2% dissatisfaction rate. These sorts of satisfaction rates are unheard of.), but it is incredibly important for people suffering from any ailment to follow the science, look at the metrics, and take the advice of reputable physicians. Because if you go to unreliable physicians who do extremely experimental procedures, you have no idea where you'll be post-op.
uh yeah?
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its completely different thing when you mischaracterize your growths to other people and capitalize on them believing you
and body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria are very different things and its transphobic as fuck to act like theyre the same. body dysmorphia has no cure (edit: but does have treatments via ssris that dont alter your body), if you do one alteration you wont get relief, and you will find a new issue. with gender dysphoria, you do get relief after treatment. this is by the metrics and by the admissions of people that actually have these issues.
so yeah, if i went around lying to trans people that i wasnt on E and to buy my soy milk supplements to achieve my tit gains, that'd be fucked. especially if i am doing treatments to achieve tit growth that are dangerous (of which there are some in fact).
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Bro, if the alterations actually make people feel better, I'm all for it. What I'm against is self harm. People that have a never ending need to get bigger are demonstrably removing years, sometimes as many as four decades, off their lifespan. And it's all from fucked societal perceptions.
Go look into steroid abuse mishaps. So many bodybuilders die age 40-50 because of it. My bf is a bodybuilder himself and knows people that have died from this
There are people with BDD that have a never-ending desire to just cut their arms and legs off. Are you ok with that level of self harm?
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Excess skin removal surgeries can actually reduce pain and afaik is covered by some insurances. I'd personally consider it reconstructive. Studies do show reconstructive surgeries provide better mental health outcomes but obviously the way insurance companies categorize things are nutty. Its important to talk to docs about post-surgery studies and ask for how happy people are afterwards statistically. Take a look at before and after pictures too. Sometimes it isn't all rosy.
I appreciate the self awareness :meow-hug:
I just disagree. For example, I know some trans women that have gotten extremely experimental surgeries that reduce things like collarbone width, their height, or even went and got bottom surgeries at cheap, not reputable doctors. They killed themselves. Those were people that I knew and helped and cared about. Gender dysphoria is widely regarded as treatable and even has a reputation of treatments being miracle cures for a sufferer's mental health (metrics show extreme rates of satisfaction post-treatment for surgeries and hrt, with the least satisfied treatment being FTM bottom surgery, with a 2% dissatisfaction rate. These sorts of satisfaction rates are unheard of.), but it is incredibly important for people suffering from any ailment to follow the science, look at the metrics, and take the advice of reputable physicians. Because if you go to unreliable physicians who do extremely experimental procedures, you have no idea where you'll be post-op.