As a conspiratorial-minded chap, is this an opportunistic ploy, or was this movie specifically designed to function as a Trojan Horse to accelerate a fascist agenda of mass censorship?

Or just empty politics as usual? Something about this feels... different...

  • Zoccalo [none/use name]
    11·
    4 years ago

    Um.. Guys... Is it any wonder this movie won a Sundance award? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sundance-film-festival-co-founder-charged-sex-abuse-n993601

    There's a lot of frustrating analysis in this thread that either tries too hard IMO, or completely misses the point. Trying to make a point against sexualization of children should not involve sexualizing children. Period. Absolutely no context could or should possibly justify this.

    The fact that the right has somehow co-opted and taken ownership of pedophilia accusations through conspiracy theories does not mean that there isn't a very large, very well-funded black market child sex industry. There is more than enough evidence for this, and simply acknowledging it does not mean you are instantly a Qanon conspiracy nutcase.

    It is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT that we do not let the right poison the well on this issue and therefore direct the narrative on this.

    Pedophiles deserve the wall, and we should loudly speak out against this disgusting film and any other attempts to openly commodify the aesthetic of sexualizing children in ALL its forms.

    • LoMeinTenants [any]
      10·
      4 years ago

      The fact that the right has somehow co-opted and taken ownership of pedophilia accusations through conspiracy theories does not mean that there isn’t a very large, very well-funded black market child sex industry.

      What does one have to do with the other? Has anyone ever denied that child sex trafficking isn't a thing?

      It is MASSIVELY IMPORTANT that we do not let the right poison the well on this issue and therefore direct the narrative on this.

      You are literally regurgitating their talking points. The best example is that Sundance award link. Your lot tries so hard to make the pedophile-by-association thing, and you're using an example of someone who hasn't been associated with Sundance for 27 years.

      Sundance Film Festival officials didn't immediately return an email and phone message seeking comment. His affiliation with the organization ended in 1993 when he left the advisory board, The Salt Lake Tribune reported.

      Pedophiles deserve the wall

      That's the dead giveaway. A thinking person would phrase it, "People who molest children."

      New account. First post. Not passing the vibe test...

      • Zoccalo [none/use name]
        4·
        4 years ago

        'vibe' test? Dude I've been a ML for at least 5 years now. The fact that I have a new account on here is partly due to the fact that I only found out about this community recently.

        Are we seriously not allowed to call them pedophiles anymore? Why is it 'thinking' to call them 'people who molest children'? Why should we mince words?

        Also more importantly - why is the suggestion that there's a strong incentive to commodify sexualizing children such a contentious issue all of a sudden? Do the forces of capital somehow end their influence on this subject?

        • constantly_dabbing [none/use name]
          3·
          4 years ago

          Why is it ‘thinking’ to call them ‘people who molest children’?

          Duerte death squads are like: "people with mood disorders who might want to use drugs deserve the wall".

          • LoMeinTenants [any]
            3·
            4 years ago

            Pedophile is a state of mind, molesting children is an act (and not exclusive to pedos). When someone says "pedos deserve the wall" without the distinction, that's thought crime territory. Of course some people would be ok with that, but I agree with OP about moral panic slippery slopes, and homosexuality and trans issues would be next.