What an absolute fucking joke. We don't want your taxes, we want your heads :gui-better:
what will taxing them even do? we have no social programs. it solves nothing
:maybe-later-kiddo: it'll help fund Ukraine, take that Putler!
stupid isn't the worst thing a person can be. They're libs and their ideas are bad but they do seem to care about the troubles of society even if they don't understand the causes or solutions
Translation: We've spent the last 70 years eroding FDR's New Deal and now the workers are getting uppity again!
At this point, I'd rather have their heads as well. It's the only way they'll learn.
"200 billion in new revenue? Sounds like we need to pay down the deficit and increase the military budget with the remaining 150 billion"
We don't want the taxes or the heads (not that we won't take them), we want the means of production
are they though. What are we going to do with heads? decorate the garden?
I think this is us coming to believe the lies told about us.
In the French revolution no one rose up for the head of the king they wanted bread, roses, education, rights, and the end of slavery.
No sane person could rationally want corpses we should want and strive for good things for the workers instead of bad things for the rich. the poor are the ones worthy of thought and care the rich should not occupy our thinking this much
I get what you're saying and it's noble, but...
Maybe it's low of me, or petty, but as well as liberation from capitalism and all the suffering it forces on us, I do want some sort of vengeance. It does occupy my thinking, and it can't not do so. I think it would be a form of justice were certain heads to roll. I "tremble at every injustice" and not just because I don't want it to happen again in the future, I want to see some consequence, recompense for that injustice. Fortunately, it's a moot point, because those heads have made it clear now and throughout history, that we won't be getting our bread, roses, and social justice unless we take those heads too.
Once again performative nonsense. They know it'll never happen, they won't do anything to further equality than do some PR stunts, but they hope to become popular by saying it.
I saw this more as a "catch me if you can" kind of taunt. Like, "fucking try to tax me, bro, you can't. I get off on your failure".
Because obviously if they wanted to be taxed more, they wouldn't be doing all the crazy bullshit they do to evade taxes, they would just have conventional financial management.
no it's just a particular subset of useless libs. They're sincere and might not even be personally evading taxes.
It's stupid and lib but well meaning
I actually did want their wealth I thought that was really rather the point
What is anyone actually going to get out of punishing them. Sure prevent them from doing a counter revolution but punishment and giving them what is fair would immediately get the new socialist system accustomed to killing criminals and wouldn't be a good way of establishing to the general populace what we actually want
More importantly, executions are spectacle that can and will distract the masses from the real issues. Killing the Marie Antoinettes of the world does fuckall.
In this case specifically, people like Mark Ruffalo aren't the problem. He's not getting rich off of stealing the workers' surplus value, his labor is just horrendously overpaid in an unjust system. He's a lib and he definitely won't lead the revolution, but he's not the enemy and calling for his head when he says something that really isn't bad at all is just mindless bloodthirst. Really not a fan of this reaction.
My other worry is that once institutions and people get used to killing people it can be hard to get them to stop. Beyond the obvious fact that sheer bloodthirstiness is disturbing and fedposting
A state is inherently violent but an established state manages to keep that violence largely implicit rather than explicit and after a revolution is always an unstable time whereby destabalising action of the new state is I would argue counter revolutionary
It's hilarious how all the stuff that chuds are deathly afraid of, like the "Great Reset" and similar are just the lib equivalent of the ultraleftist Twitter call for a General Strike on [day] (this time for real):
the for the love of God let's have social democracy written into law permanently (it won't get rolled back), we need you to collaborate (this time for real)
I'm gonna have to give this one
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MARK RUFFALOSVLADIMIR LENINS:lenin-sleeping: :lenin-sleeping:
Our demands most moderate are, We only want the Earth. :connolly-shining:
Lot of weird shit I've read about the Disney family
Also Mark Ruffalo's brother was killed by the CIA so he's clearly scared
wait i looked it up and coroner says homicide but beverly hills PD said suicide obv somethings fishy. why would it be CIA? ive never heard of this guy before now, did he whistleblow or smth?
Eh. There's a baseline understanding at certain academic levels that states can't operate without a tax base and businesses can't make money without a baseline of public services to support a going population.
Case in point, there's the Kansas Experiment of 2012, during which the Kansas State Legislature and Governor basically gutted statewide revenues and handcuffed all the municipalities to prevent them from raising local revenues. Five years after the experiment began, the state was in bankruptcy and businesses were fleeing in droves. Republicans ended up overriding a gubernatorial veto in order to reinstate the old tax codes, before the entrenched cultural conservative majority could be entirely whittled away by electoral defeats.
They're not mocking you. They're angling for some degree of self-preservation. None of this Imperial Core shit works if you defund the bureaucracy that allows it to operate. Follow Techno-Libertarianism to its ultimate conclusion and you just end up like the UK. :ukkk:
I feel like Ruffalo and Abigail Disney are sincere, if also pretty air headed and lib about the whole thing. Obviously they are nowhere near a majority opinion among Davos attendees
Tax US! I say as I use my wealth and power to make sure that will never happen.
